OK so I know 2 guys who are good traders

Quote from Nofear777:

Boy you are a miserable fellow. It takes the misery of others to make you happy. Very classy.

Let me ask you something. Don't you think the world would be better off without people like you? I certainly do. Im all for gassing people like you.

As for the rest of you, I understand why you would be conspicuous of the post. Looking at it I guess I might be as well, But that doesn't detract from the fact that everything I posted is true and almost every reply has been riddled with misquotes and false assertions.

I have been forthcoming about the situation as I can.

Its telling that every response in this thread has been of suspision ,hate , and most disturbingly a sense of entertainment at others misery. This kind of behaviour does not breed success. It speaks volumes about your state of mind.

A dumb hurting animal.

Happiness comes from within, not others misery.

Have a nice life.

How about you back your friends with cash and they can pay you back within a month or two, with interest if you so wish. Seems like you are confident in their abilities. Also, can't they get a line of credit or something, for 5K? I can't imagine that most adults that are supposedly somewhat successful don't have access to 5K, one way or another. I'm not sure what other answer you're looking for. Lastly, if they have been good performers for their bosses as you said, inevitably they made some money themselves.
 
Quote from Nofear777:

Its telling that every response in this thread has been of suspision ,hate , and most disturbingly a sense of entertainment at others misery. This kind of behaviour does not breed success. It speaks volumes about your state of mind.

I don't think all responses were as you describe. Recall in your initial post you stated "These 2 guys who have been extremely profitable for the group for nearly a decade were told they would need to put in additional capital which they don't have."

So I ask if they're "extremely profitable for nearly a decade" why don't they have any $$$ for additional capital? Any trader, prop or retail, should be intelligent enough to build up savings from their profitability over the years. To do otherwise suggests irresponsibility from a financial point of view IMO.
 
These are my feelings. This story does not meet the smell test and if the OP thinks it does he needs to toughen up on his sense of reality.

People can have unexpected things happen and good fortune turn into bad. Caeser beat a lot of very good generals who had the bad fortune to be up against Caeser.

The smell test. There is no grade -- it is pass/fail. This one fails.


Quote from munnyhunny:

You didn't but usually a "young person" who "spends everything he makes" spends it on gadgets, toys, flash. What else would he spend it on. If he was doing as well as you say, then there was lot of spending done.

I don't think you made this up.
I do think you are leaving a large part out either because you don't want to tell or don't know.
 
sounds like complete BS.... although i know of several traders at a well known shop that have made $200k in 2005-2007 and don't have two nickels to rub together....

if they have some skin to put up...i'll back em.
 
Quote from Nofear777:

One is very talented and mid 20s (young by my standards).

A mid 20s person who has been profitable for 10 years? How many prop firms accept 14, 15, 16 year olds?
 
if i were these guys i would be hesitant to put up more capital whether i had it or not. it sounds like this firm is in trouble. if they both have positive accounts there's no reason the firm should change the rules and come to them for capital like that, that's bs. get outta that sinking ship and certainly don't put more money in it.
 
Quote from Nightowl45:

if i were these guys i would be hesitant to put up more capital whether i had it or not. it sounds like this firm is in trouble. if they both have positive accounts there's no reason the firm should change the rules and come to them for capital like that, that's bs. get outta that sinking ship and certainly don't put more money in it.

Their group leader had capital to back the traders. Many firms will require more risk deposit if you trade direct through them. However, you can also negotiate lower rates as you do not need to pay the overrides to the group leader.
 
Quote from Nofear777:

Both in NYC. One is paying between .25 and .29) other is paying .35 cents per share.
I can match or beat the rates, but not the payout. At least not for fully backed.

I'm in the Greenwich area, PM me if interested.
 
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