OK, Now I Understand How Republicans Were Supposed To Handle Foley

[hapaboy]

Quote from dddooo:

I'm a Democrat

Right, and Foxnews is fair and balanced and Bush is a compassionate conservative... I've read a couple of your posts and you did not miss a single republican talking point. Sorry but you do sound like Bill O'Reily, Mort Kondracke or Dick Morris. I personally don't care if you call yourself a republican, a democrat or a communist but I just want you to know that you're not fooling anybody. (no offense meant).

Captain, you're clearly not looney enough to be termed a Democrat in dddooo's eyes. Criticize your own party, point out the rank hypocrisy and self-serving tactics as common to it as the Right and well, you're just Joe Liebermann in disguise!

This is why the Democratic Party is so laughable. The moonbats are now the vocal mainstream and genuine Democrats like the good Captain are marginalized.

We as a country are certainly fucked if this current pack of socialists and pacifists ever attains power. Might as well change our name to France West.

Get ready for a run on burkhas...

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from Madison:

if her goal was just to keep the masses updated on the evils of liberals she would give her books away for free.

She does keep the masses updated while making good coin at the same time.

I don't see Al Franken giving his books away or peddling his vocal excreta on Air America gratis, or Michael Moore inviting everyone to see his latest cinematic abortion free of charge.

They are all profiteers. This is America, not Kampuchea.

 

[FanOfFridays]

Quote from Madison:

and the fact that you (we) are discussing it proves that she has succeeded. she is selling a lot of books, making appearances, getting attention. if her goal was just to keep the masses updated on the evils of liberals she would give her books away for free.

Like I've said many times, she is a pure capitalist - she found her market, she's providing it with quality product, and I do not in any way begrudge her the money she's making. As long as we don't forget that what she does isn't in any way political analysis. It's product placement.

Sorry hap, I know you're not quite as renegade about Ms. Coulter as I am

 

[dddooo]

Quote from hapaboy:

Captain, you're clearly not looney enough to be termed a Democrat in dddooo's eyes. Criticize your own party, point out the rank hypocrisy and self-serving tactics as common to it as the Right and well, you're just Joe Liebermann in disguise!

This is why the Democratic Party is so laughable. The moonbats are now the vocal mainstream and genuine Democrats like the good Captain are marginalized.

Hapa, face it, you're one of the most rightwing members and certainly the biggest republican dittohead on this forum. AAA and Pabst criticize repubilicans and Bush quite often, you never have. Ann Coulter is your hero, NewsMax.com is your source of "unbiased" information. The very idea of you of all people lecturing others for not being centrists enough and for not criticizing their own party is absurd.


As far as CaptainOblivious is concerned - he's yet to criticize a single republican elected official or attack a rightwing member of this forum. Instead he spends his time bashing ALL prominent democratic politicians and their supporters, and mind you he is not bashing Pelosi or Conyers on their political views which he is probably unfamiliar with, in a typical RNC/Foxnews manner he attacks them personally accusing them of being too partisan and too leftwing without providing any specifics. He is yet to post a POV which would not parrot FoxNews talking points, he is yet to explain what exactly he disagrees with "leftwing", "liberal" democrats on.

With democrats like him who needs republicans, he is as much a democrat as RatBoy is a conservative, Wael is a mexican and O'Reilly is a centrist.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Quote from dddooo:

Hapa, face it, you're one of the most rightwing members and certainly the biggest republican dittohead on this forum. AAA and Pabst criticize repubilicans and Bush quite often, you never have. Ann Coulter is your hero, NewsMax.com is your source of "unbiased" information. The very idea of you of all people lecturing others for not being centrists enough and for not criticizing their own party is absurd.


As far as CaptainOblivious is concerned - he's yet to criticize a single republican elected official or attack a rightwing member of this forum. Instead he spends his time bashing ALL prominent democratic politicians and their supporters, and mind you he is not bashing Pelosi or Conyers on their political views which he is probably unfamiliar with, in a typical RNC/Foxnews manner he attacks them personally accusing them of being too partisan and too leftwing without providing any specifics. He is yet to post a POV which would not parrot FoxNews talking points, he is yet to explain what exactly he disagrees with "leftwing", "liberal" democrats on.

With democrats like him who needs republicans, he is as much a democrat as RatBoy is a conservative, Wael is a mexican and O'Reilly is a centrist.

I guess you missed this one.
CaptainObvious


Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 350


10-04-06 01:11 PM



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Quote from Pabst:

How much has the value of your home increased?

How much has your portfolio increased?

How much has your tax bill been cut?

Are you unemployed?

I'll happily pay a buck or two more per gallon if it means my assets tripling.
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My response below.

Agreed! But I think these things are in spite of him rather than becuase of him. I did like his SSN proposal, or at least putting it on the table. He's had a terrible time in history to try and manage a country, but much of it is his own doing, or maybe better said would be lack of doing. No! I don't blame him for 9/11. No I don't blame him for going into Iraq. The intel of the time mandated action. But since then, man o man, what a friggin mess he's made of things.

There are numerous other responses similar to the above. Like I said, I don't drink the kool-aid, nor do I make wild eyed attacks on the oppostion. Unlike you, I'm not afraid to accept that Republicans are not 100% wrong, a 100% of the time. If some goof like O'Riely says the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, agreeing with him does not make me an O'Riely supporter. I fail to see what's so hard to comprehend about that.

 

[traderob]

Don't worry Capn
when someone starts posting reasoned statements it's natural everyone thinks he can't be from the left. Even dddooo looks suspiciously conservative at times.

 

[Pa(b)st Prime]

You're a most reasonable contributor. The President has LITTLE to do with market events. The U.S., Russia, China and Brazil have an eclectic group of political systems yet EACH of those nations has seen rising productivity and GDP. Clearly the correlation between politics and economics is far from absolute.

However it gets tiresome when idiots complain about rising fuel without acknowledging that ALL asset classes have skyrocketed. So it's fine for one's house to triple but HOW DARE oil producers attempt to raise prices! Adjusted for inflation oil and food prices have been stagnant for decades. What's good for the goose is good for the gander......

Quote from CaptainObvious:

I guess you missed this one.
CaptainObvious


Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 350


10-04-06 01:11 PM



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Quote from Pabst:

How much has the value of your home increased?

How much has your portfolio increased?

How much has your tax bill been cut?

Are you unemployed?

I'll happily pay a buck or two more per gallon if it means my assets tripling.
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My response below.

Agreed! But I think these things are in spite of him rather than becuase of him. I did like his SSN proposal, or at least putting it on the table. He's had a terrible time in history to try and manage a country, but much of it is his own doing, or maybe better said would be lack of doing. No! I don't blame him for 9/11. No I don't blame him for going into Iraq. The intel of the time mandated action. But since then, man o man, what a friggin mess he's made of things.

There are numerous other responses similar to the above. Like I said, I don't drink the kool-aid, nor do I make wild eyed attacks on the oppostion. Unlike you, I'm not afraid to accept that Republicans are not 100% wrong, a 100% of the time. If some goof like O'Riely says the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, agreeing with him does not make me an O'Riely supporter. I fail to see what's so hard to comprehend about that.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from CaptainObvious:

Agreed! But I think these things are in spite of him rather than becuase of him. I did like his SSN proposal, or at least putting it on the table. He's had a terrible time in history to try and manage a country, but much of it is his own doing, or maybe better said would be lack of doing. No! I don't blame him for 9/11. No I don't blame him for going into Iraq. The intel of the time mandated action. But since then, man o man, what a friggin mess he's made of things.

LOL, this sounds like it was written but Bill Kristol or Tony Blankley, that's exactly what I am talking about, occasional and extremely mild criticism of the most outrageous policies of this administration, only because it's unavoidable and relentless often personal attacks on democratic politicians and their supporters. You don't think Bush was asleep at the wheel on 9/11, despite all the evidence to the contrary you believe that the war in Iraq was justified, you even support his most outrageous SSN proposal which was supported by virtually no democrats and democratic representatives. You seem to agree with Pabst that the country is better off today than it was 6 years ago which is utter nonsense, you don't confront him on the housing bubble and huge trade/budget deficit that Bush policies caused, on the fact that while the tax cuts for a median american family were several hundred dollars, we and our children will be paying off the debt they (tax cuts) caused for years to come.


You have not agreed with a single democrat on this forum (and I am sure you would not on any other forum) while all partisan rightwingers like Hapa, Pabst and others seem to share your views on what the democratic party should stand for. If that does not convince you that you're not a democrat nothing will. Interesting how they (and you) don't have any interest in moving the republican party to the center, you all want to moderate the democrats instead.

Frankly I am not interested in this discussion, I don't care if you call yourself a democrat, a communist, a tamil tiger or Napoleon, as I said before you're not fooling anyone, all your posts parrot FoxNews covert anti-democratic propaganda.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Quote from dddooo:

LOL, this sounds like it was written but Bill Kristol or Tony Blankley, that's exactly what I am talking about, occasional and extremely mild criticism of the most outrageous policies of this administration and relentless often personal attacks on democratic politicians and their supporters. You don't think Bush was asleep at the wheel on 9/11, despite all the evidence to the contrary you believe that the war in Iraq was justified, you even support his most outrageous SSN proposal which was supported by virtually no democrats and democratic representatives.


You have not agreed with a single democrat on this forum (and I am sure you would not on any other forum) while all partisan rightwingers like Hapa, Pabst and others seem to share your views on what the democratic party should stand for. If that does not convince you that you're not a democrat nothing will. Interesting how they (and you) don't have any interest in moving the republican party to the center, you all want to moderate the democrats instead.

Frankly I am not interested in this discussion, I don't care if you call yourself a democrat, a communist, a tamil tiger or Napoleon, as I said before you're not fooling anyone, all your posts parrot FoxNews covert anti-democratic propaganda.

I didn't say I supported the exact SSN proposal Bush proposed, I supported putting the issue on the table. Something that needs to be done. SSN is broke and kicking it down the road only makes it more painful to more people when it actually gets addressed. Bush was no more asleep regarding 9/11 than any other administration for the last 3 decades. They were all asleep and I've said so.
I don't give a flyin' fuck what direction the Republican party moves to. I'm concerned about what direction my party is moving to. Leaders lead the way. All we Democrats do is react to what Republicans do. That ain't leadership, it's groveling for scraps. We're the ones that need to move to the center and if we make that move first, we win. We play follow the leader, we lose. They move farther right and we move farther left and voter apahty grows. Gee! I wonder why! We can't win on thin voter turnout. Hasn't that been demonstrated clearly enough during the last two elections?

 

[CaptainObvious]

Quote from CaptainObvious:

I didn't say I supported the exact SSN proposal Bush proposed, I supported putting the issue on the table. Something that needs to be done. SSN is broke and kicking it down the road only makes it more painful to more people when it actually gets addressed. Bush was no more asleep regarding 9/11 than any other administration for the last 3 decades. They were all asleep and I've said so.
I don't give a flyin' fuck what direction the Republican party moves to. I'm concerned about what direction my party is moving to. Leaders lead the way. All we Democrats do is react to what Republicans do. That ain't leadership, it's groveling for scraps. We're the ones that need to move to the center and if we make that move first, we win. We play follow the leader, we lose. They move farther right and we move farther left and voter apathy grows. Gee! I wonder why! We can't win on thin voter turnout. Hasn't that been demonstrated clearly enough during the last two elections?