OK, give me a ticker you think would most offset QQQ losses so I can test...

That's a Forex thing, yes? Machete don't FX.

Nah; it's basically trading instruments that move together (whether direct or inverse), looking for them to drift out of sync, and betting on them to come back into alignment. There's probably some FX pairing, but I'm mostly familiar with it in equities and futs.
 
Well, I don't have a particular "look" I'm looking for, I'm just shooting for the best profit to loss ratio. So (just making something up), if going 100% in QQQs had a 18% IRR but a 55% max drawdown, but going 70% in on QQQs and 30% in on the something else we are looking for had a 17% return but only a 25% max drawdown, I would consider that an absolutely home run. That sort of thing.

What you are describing is a Portable Alpha portfolio (multi-strategy portfolio).

In my opinion the only way you can get what you are looking for above is by adding active management components that provide uncorrelated/anti-correlated returns. This is usually done by investing in CTA's, HF's or by running a trading strategy yourself.
 
Thanks everyone, will refocus on this tonight.

I find this interesting, however. Today the market is down big. I go to finviz.com, run their screener, and select the beta less than 0 screener option. So, this should mean, since the market is down big, the ones it screens far are up. But not, the vast majority are down even more than the market LOL.
 
Thanks everyone, will refocus on this tonight.

I find this interesting, however. Today the market is down big. I go to finviz.com, run their screener, and select the beta less than 0 screener option. So, this should mean, since the market is down big, the ones it screens far are up. But not, the vast majority are down even more than the market LOL.
Hey Soy, Do you have any idea of a person or organization of any type that does this technique well? Can you name one or more for us?
If you want to learn how to do something, first find someone who does what you want to do and Does It Well.
Have you identified something like that Soy?
 
Hey Soy, Do you have any idea of a person or organization of any type that does this technique well? Can you name one or more for us?
If you want to learn how to do something, first find someone who does what you want to do and Does It Well.
Have you identified something like that Soy?


I was hoping that was you!
 
I find this interesting, however. Today the market is down big. I go to finviz.com, run their screener, and select the beta less than 0 screener option. So, this should mean, since the market is down big, the ones it screens far are up. But not, the vast majority are down even more than the market LOL.

Well, GCT went up 250% today. (If they buckled the market trend, it must be "beta", right?)

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Following up on my thread regarding investments with a negative or low beta versus the stock market.

zghorner suggested the VIX, but in my testing (I tested various percentages of a portfolio on QQQ, the remainder in VIXY, which is a VIX tracker), while it offsets the losses some, it crushes your overall returns. So very far from ideal.

bkr88 suggested farmland, so I tried the same thing with DBA and MOO (separately), which are apparently farmland/operations tickers, neither were great either, yes they both reduced drawdowns but returns were hurt very badly.

So, give me your ticker or tickers that I should run as a part of a portfolio with QQQ and let's see which one is the best!!!!


DXY
 
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