Quote from nitro:
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As far as XLF is concerned, if we bought XLF on the SPX gap fill, we got lucky on the upgrade. Still, it was the right decision, not only for the short term, but imo for the long term, even if the ensuing action over the next couple of weeks/month will show the investment wrong (the swing trade can't be wrong, unless you let it turn into a loser.) The point is that you have to buy support, and most of the time that support is right.
nitro
Well, XLF has taking it right on the chin since that upgrade. The only thing that swing trade got you is break even if you were very disciplined.
I wish I understood better what the fear of the sellers is on the financials. There are several possibilities. I honestly thought most if not all of the doomsday scenarios were already well priced in the sector. I guess not. Could it be the FFFs showing odds that the FED will take all these cuts back soon? Could the market be that stupid and not have realized that was imminent? It will be very interesting to see if we go to 1270 SPX again, if the financials lead there first, and when the bottom sets, what leads the market higher...
C at 18.56. Wow. I tell you $15 is very possible, and I just don't see how anyone can resist chipping at it slowly for a two year hold. Heck, take a look at C-PS or C-PR.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=C-PR
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=c-ps
If you are worried about C imploding, sell the common and buy one of these, in the right ratio. That at least gives you a nearly risk free dividend arb, and traders can let go the common short hedge as a trading vehicle, or altogether when the market shows signs of turning. The risk is that C raises the common dividend, an extremely unlikely scenario in the short term. But that risk is not unique to this pair - you have to pay attention on these pair trades.
nitro