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OIH and 1256
- Thread starter razf1
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Isn't OIH an ETF? Are the others actual indices?
If that's the case, I read interpretation of the tax law that claims that options on wide-based indices are treated as 1256 contracts and options on ETF are not.
The source is Greentax.com
This whole issue is not carved in stone and is open to interpretations and court precedents.
I know of efforts to include ETFs as 1256 contracts, but I'm not aware of any changes.
I'll happy if someone in the forum has more precise information
If that's the case, I read interpretation of the tax law that claims that options on wide-based indices are treated as 1256 contracts and options on ETF are not.
The source is Greentax.com
This whole issue is not carved in stone and is open to interpretations and court precedents.
I know of efforts to include ETFs as 1256 contracts, but I'm not aware of any changes.
I'll happy if someone in the forum has more precise information
Quote from razf1:
Guys,
Would love to get some insight from anyone who knows how OIH options are treated and if they qualify for 1256.
I know all the Oil Indexes(OIX,OSX,MGO and XOI) qualify under 1256. However, the liquidity in options for these is nothing compared to OIH.
Thanks,
Raza
Hi
I do trade OIH actively mostly as naked call/outs.
When I like to trade the stock instead of options I like the proxies like RIG,NBR,NOV,BJS ,WFT etc which mimic OIH most of the time!
But some times OSX /XNG/XOI trade a bit diffrently (if not in the direction but atleast in the % up/down)
OIH stock/options is the best vehicle on liquidity/pricing!
So may be dont worry about tax treatment & earn more profits with out slippage in OIH options.
I do trade OIH actively mostly as naked call/outs.
When I like to trade the stock instead of options I like the proxies like RIG,NBR,NOV,BJS ,WFT etc which mimic OIH most of the time!
But some times OSX /XNG/XOI trade a bit diffrently (if not in the direction but atleast in the % up/down)
OIH stock/options is the best vehicle on liquidity/pricing!
So may be dont worry about tax treatment & earn more profits with out slippage in OIH options.
Hi Raza
I trade in Singapore?HK time zone.But sometimes India time zone too.
I trade in Singapore?HK time zone.But sometimes India time zone too.
Quote from razf1:
Guys,
Would love to get some insight from anyone who knows how OIH options are treated and if they qualify for 1256.
I know all the Oil Indexes(OIX,OSX,MGO and XOI) qualify under 1256. However, the liquidity in options for these is nothing compared to OIH.
Thanks,
Raza
My reading of the IRS docs (#550 if memory serves) is that NONE of these qualify for 1256 treatment because they are not broad-based; they are industry specific.
Here is the CBOE's list of broad-based indices:
EYR - CBOE Asia 25 Index Options | Components
EOR - CBOE Euro 25 Index Options | Components
DJX - Dow Jones Industrial Average | Components
Dow Jones Industrial Average LEAPS | Components
DXL - Jumbo-DJX Index Options | Components NEW!
OEX® - S&P 100® Index Options - American | Components
OEX® - S&P 100® Index LEAPS - American | Components
WEEKLYSSM - Short-Term S&P 100 Index Options | Components NEW!
XEO® - European-style S&P 100® Index Options | Components
XEO® - European-style S&P 100® LEAPS | Components
SPX - S&P 500® Index Options | Components
SPX - (Reduced-value) LEAPS | Components
XSP - Mini-SPX Index Options | Components NEW!
WEEKLYSSM - Short-Term S&P 500 Index Options | Components NEW!
SPL - S&P Long-Dated Options | Components
SML - S&P® SmallCap 600 Index Options | Components
NDX - Nasdaq-100® Index Options | Components
MNXSM - CBOE Mini-NDX Index Options | Components
MML - CBOE Mini-NDX Long-Dated Options | Components
GTC - GSTI⢠Composite Index Options | Components
RUI - Russell 1000® Index | Components
RLG - Russell 1000® Growth Index
RLV - Russell 1000® Value Index
RUT - Russell 2000® Index | Components
RMN - Mini-Russell 2000® Index Options | Components
RUO - Russell 2000® Growth Index
RUJ - Russell 2000® Value Index
RUA - Russell 3000® Index | Components
RAG - Russell 3000® Growth Index
RAV - Russell 3000® Value Index
RMC - Russell Midcap® Index
RDG - Russell Midcap® Growth Index
RMV - Russell Midcap® Value Index
NFT - Morgan Stanley Multinational Company Index | Components
Here is the url where I found the list:
http://www.cboe.com/Products/Cash-SettledIndexOptions.aspx
Tempus,
CBOE's definition of "broad based" is not the same as the IRS definition.
According to section 1a(25)(A) of the CEA, a security index is defined as broad based if it has 10 or more components. There are other limitations (such as: no single component could be higher than 30% of the index weight, the top 5 components should be less than 60%, etc.)
My source is Robert's Green book.
CBOE's definition of "broad based" is not the same as the IRS definition.
According to section 1a(25)(A) of the CEA, a security index is defined as broad based if it has 10 or more components. There are other limitations (such as: no single component could be higher than 30% of the index weight, the top 5 components should be less than 60%, etc.)
My source is Robert's Green book.
Quote from OptionsWizard:
Tempus,
CBOE's definition of "broad based" is not the same as the IRS definition.
According to section 1a(25)(A) of the CEA, a security index is defined as broad based if it has 10 or more components. There are other limitations (such as: no single component could be higher than 30% of the index weight, the top 5 components should be less than 60%, etc.)
My source is Robert's Green book.
I would be careful. Here is the IRS language:
"A section 1256 contract is any:
Regulated futures contract,
Foreign currency contract,
Nonequity option,
Dealer equity option, or
Dealer securities futures contract."
...and...
"Nonequity option. This is any listed option (defined later) that is not an equity option. Nonequity options include debt options, commodity futures options, currency options, and broad-based stock index options. A broad-based stock index is based upon the value of a group of diversified stocks or securities (such as the Standard and Poor's 500 index). "
The key word here is "diversified." I do trade OIH options but do so in an IRA account so that the tax implications are moot.
See more at:
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p550/ch04.html