Oh Noes : Most Republicans Who Bought Obamacare Coverage Like Their Plans

[Ricter]

For smoking, it already is adjusted upward under ACA. Smokers premiums are higher. AND, no part of that extra premium is subsidized by government. But you already knew that.

Actually, I did not know that, but had decided not to look it up since it wasn't necessary for my point. Thanks, though. : )

 

[dbphoenix]

Unfortunately, low quality food, typically packed with grain, is cheaper than high quality food. This is why the poor around the world, who expend more calories daily than we do, are becoming obese--it is the hormonal theory of fat accumulation.

Or we could force them to stand in line with 300 other people to get $20 worth of fruit and vegetables which they cannot otherwise afford, if they have access to it at all.

It's no different from standing in line for free ice cream

 

[DHOHHI]

Unfortunately, low quality food, typically packed with grain, is cheaper than high quality food. This is why the poor around the world, who expend more calories daily than we do, are becoming obese--it is the hormonal theory of fat accumulation. As for other lifestyle factors, like smoking, I agree, health insurance premiums should be adjusted for that.

Bu not all I'm referring to are poor. Plenty of middle class people who look the same. Go to a mall or airport. People watch ... and watch what they buy at airport food courts or at a mall. Many people know the food they buy at fast food or other unhealthy restaurants is not good for them ... yet they buy it anyway. It's illogical to me .... but I suppose if you enjoy food that tastes "good", however unhealthy, for many that beats eating healthy food that may not be as tasteful.

 

[DHOHHI]

Or we could force them to stand in line with 300 other people to get $20 worth of fruit and vegetables which they cannot otherwise afford, if they have access to it at all.

It's no different from standing in line for free ice cream

Why rehash an old thread? And what's wrong with them receiving FREE vouchers for fruits & vegetables? So they have to stand in line. Many have the time to do so.

They do have access to it .. those on food stamps can choose what they buy. Pringles, doritos and other junk food are choices over fruits & vegetables.

 

[DHOHHI]

Wasserman Schultz again makes an ass of herself.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-wrong-about-nevada-exchange-in-tv-interview/

 

[Ricter]

Bu not all I'm referring to are poor. Plenty of middle class people who look the same. Go to a mall or airport. People watch ... and watch what they buy at airport food courts or at a mall. Many people know the food they buy at fast food or other unhealthy restaurants is not good for them ... yet they buy it anyway. It's illogical to me .... but I suppose if you enjoy food that tastes "good", however unhealthy, for many that beats eating healthy food that may not be as tasteful.

You're absolutely right. According to the hormone theory of fat accumulation, those foods give rise to cravings for... those foods. Dopamine is apparently involved. Some go so far as to say sugar is addictive. So any income level is exposed to the danger. Still, 500 calories of KD is cheaper than 500 calories of fish.

 

[dbphoenix]

Why rehash an old thread? And what's wrong with them receiving FREE vouchers for fruits & vegetables? So they have to stand in line. Many have the time to do so.

They do have access to it .. those on food stamps can choose what they buy. Pringles, doritos and other junk food are choices over fruits & vegetables.

“Food desert” is a term commonly used to describe communities with little or no access to healthy food, including fresh fruits, vegetables, meats and diary products. Millions of Americans — mostly poor, many African-Americans — live in these areas. In fact, the United States Department of Agriculture reports that about 23.5 million Americans currently live in food deserts, including 6.5 million children. Typically, food deserts are defined by: 1) the lack or absence of large grocery stores and supermarkets that sell fresh produce and healthy food options; and 2) low-income populations living on tight budgets. These food deserts are also signified by high levels of obesity, diabetes and cardiovascular diseases in the community, which result from residents buying their food from corner stores that sell processed foods, and plentiful fast food options. more . . .

 

[DHOHHI]

You're absolutely right. According to the hormone theory of fat accumulation, those foods give rise to cravings for... those foods. Dopamine is apparently involved. Some go so far as to say sugar is addictive. So any income level is exposed to the danger. Still, 500 calories of KD is cheaper than 500 calories of fish.

I'd love to eat some crappy food. It does taste good. I haven't had a doughnut in probably 5 years ... so the other day I was tempted, and gave in, and bought a box of donut holes at the grocery. I'd love to eat a big greasy burger that's 1500 calories. Or a chocolate cake with chocolate icing. But one has to have some discipline. Many people don't have that. And it shocks me that many people apparently don't care how they look

 

[Ricter]

“Food desert” is a term commonly used to describe communities with little or no access to healthy food, including fresh fruits, vegetables, meats and diary products. Millions of Americans — mostly poor, many African-Americans — live in these areas. In fact, the United States Department of Agriculture reports that about 23.5 million Americans currently live in food deserts, including 6.5 million children. Typically, food deserts are defined by: 1) the lack or absence of large grocery stores and supermarkets that sell fresh produce and healthy food options; and 2) low-income populations living on tight budgets. These food deserts are also signified by high levels of obesity, diabetes and cardiovascular diseases in the community, which result from residents buying their food from corner stores that sell processed foods, and plentiful fast food options. more . . .

Now that's a true death spiral.

 

[DHOHHI]

“Food desert” is a term commonly used to describe communities with little or no access to healthy food, including fresh fruits, vegetables, meats and diary products. Millions of Americans — mostly poor, many African-Americans — live in these areas. In fact, the United States Department of Agriculture reports that about 23.5 million Americans currently live in food deserts, including 6.5 million children. Typically, food deserts are defined by: 1) the lack or absence of large grocery stores and supermarkets that sell fresh produce and healthy food options; and 2) low-income populations living on tight budgets. These food deserts are also signified by high levels of obesity, diabetes and cardiovascular diseases in the community, which result from residents buying their food from corner stores that sell processed foods, and plentiful fast food options. more . . .

I'm well aware of food deserts. The school I volunteer at is in the middle of one. But ... pressure from the school, DHEC and the community leaders has either shamed or coerced in the largest store serving these people to stock up on fruits and vegetables. And .... they are the first thing you see when you enter the store. The school I'm at has had family dinner nights for students and parents with outside speakers on healthy cooking. Kids grow kale, tomatoes, collards, lettuce, broccoli, etc. in a school garden that my wife set up as a non-profit. So the exposure to healthy habits is happening, at least in some areas. And I can say that the kids now prefer kale chips over a bag of chips. Converting their parents is another story though.