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Quote from huh:

I think McCain smoked Obama in this debate. I'm not sure if it'll be enough to change the minds of independent voters but I do think this is the first time McCain won......

The Bill Ayers thing was a stupid waste of time which to me backfired on McCain. People losing thousands of dollars in the market couldn't careless about Ayers or Acorn...who gives a crap!

Anyway, kudos McCain for finally nutting up......but until you nut up and tell the truth that you're raising taxes...I ain't votin!



how apt.

"huh" :confused:


you do not have to worry about anyone "raising" your taxes.

You don't make more than 20K a year.

You don't pay any taxes.
 
Watching the talk shows tonight, every joke is about McCains age. No jokes about Obama.

Jokes about age so unfair and ugly. Age is something no one can control. I find jokes about racism and ageism to be equal in distain. Yet jokes about race will get you fired.
 
Quote from arealpissedgoy:


you do not have to worry about anyone "raising" your taxes.

You don't make more than 20K a year.

You don't pay any taxes.

If you pay no taxes you will still get a tax refund, a check in the mail.....In Chicago they call that street money. The churches get money from the Chicago machine to go out and get votes.
 
Now comes the fallacious "pre-judging" argument from Nik. I'm sure if an unleashed dog runs up to you it makes no difference if it's a poodle or a pit-bull?



Quote from traderNik:

I know, it's a pity for some of us here. I wonder why you couldn't bring yourself to type the last 3 letters. It's obviously worse than fucking cunt, but I've seen you use that one. I believe you may have used that one on me, or I on you, or both : )

More idealogical than racial for you?

I know you hate to hear this but there are those of us who, having heard your views on black people, tend to think that you pre-judge blacks. We believe this because you have said in the past that, for example, 45% of black people are assholes or that blacks are genetically predisposed to criminal behaviour (I know your friend Dan believed in this, I think I recall you agreeing with him but you can correct me if I'm wrong).

You often cite your support of Keyes as proof that it's not about race but about ideas. I guess I would have to consider the possibility.

With regard to this second para. more generally, I would just say that I think you're giving the average voter waaaay to much credit. The decisions made on election day are going to be a lot more visceral than this, and I believe that on the day, there are going to be a lot of people who vote race.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

Now comes the fallacious "pre-judging" argument from Nik. I'm sure if an unleashed dog runs up to you it makes no difference if it's a poodle or a pit-bull?

No. We've had this discussion many times. Once you've had a rabid pit bull threaten you, it's very very hard to treat the next dog that looks like a pit bull like any other dog even though this new dog is not doing anything threatening . It's really hard, but it's necessary.

Still curious about why you couldn't bring yourself to spell out the last 3 letters of the name you people have for blacks? Also, you didn't confirm or deny your belief that blacks are genetically pre-disposed to criminal behaviour, to a greater extent than whites?
 
Quote from traderNik:

No. We've had this discussion many times. Once you've had a rabid pit bull threaten you, it's very very hard to treat the next dog that looks like a pit bull like any other dog even though this new dog is not doing anything threatening . It's really hard, but it's necessary.

Still curious about why you couldn't bring yourself to spell out the last 3 letters of the name you people have for blacks? Also, you didn't confirm or deny your belief that blacks are genetically pre-disposed to criminal behaviour, to a greater extent than whites?

I don't call Obama a nigger. So why would I spell out the last three letters. I leave that to the Democrats who think it's cute calling Condi and Clarance house niggers.

Please show any links mentioning genetics btw......
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

I don't call Obama a nigger. So why would I spell out the last three letters. I leave that to the Democrats who think it's cute calling Condi and Clarance house niggers.

Please show any links mentioning genetics btw......

You don't call him a nigger... you call him a nig? Ah, I see.

I didn't say I had any links. I recall Dan saying that he thought blacks were genetically predisposed to criminal activity to a greater extent than whites, and I recall you agreeing. Do you? If you don't just let us know - that's why I asked.

To say 'do you have a link' sounds like 'you can't prove I said that'. Ok. But do you think that?
 
I didn't get to watch tonight's debate. I heard one excerpt from it on my car radio as I drove home though. KNX 1070 in LA played an excerpt where Obama zinged McCain about the fine for employers who don't provide health insurance.

If that one little excerpt was typical of that debate, then that debate was typical as the two before it. McCain is simply outclassed when it comes to debating. But if you remember the last presidential election, many thought that Kerry outclassed Bush.

Anyway, I haven't scrolled through the chat yet, but when i do am I going to find a post showing McCain leading Obam 70% to 30% according to Drudge? Not to be dismissive of Drudge's polls, but Ron Paul was never really winning in a landslide.....
 
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That pretty much sums it up. :D
 
Well only one thing left for the republicans...

break out your check books.. hire the best attorneys.... start suing everyone and bribe... i mean extort... no... i mean financially integricize the electorals... Fuck the popular vote... Just need 272 of the 538... $1M cool cash to each of he select 272 from the bailout as a matter of national security and under the patriot act should do the trick.
 
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