OddTrader plays ES Collars for vacationers

Quote from OddTrader:

Please bear with me for this play of es, and take it easy.

The price 1286.50 was an ES futures March2011 price. The price for its futures options for Feb2011 1285 Call was sold at 21.47.

Thanks...makes sense. Are you watching the delta of the position and adjusting for severe imbalences? IOW do you enter with the idea of being delta neutral or do you have a market bias?

Reason for all the questions is that I've been playing with a similar strat, selling the straddle/strangle (usually legging into it when market is technically overbought/oversold. Then using the ES cash to create a more delta neutral position. So if I'm greater than -50 delta I'll look for opportunity to go long on the cash and if I'm larger than +50 delta I'll take the opportunities to short.
 
Quote from RichardRimes:

Thanks...makes sense. Are you watching the delta of the position and adjusting for severe imbalences? IOW do you enter with the idea of being delta neutral or do you have a market bias?

Reason for all the questions is that I've been playing with a similar strat, selling the straddle/strangle (usually legging into it when market is technically overbought/oversold. Then using the ES cash to create a more delta neutral position. So if I'm greater than -50 delta I'll look for opportunity to go long on the cash and if I'm larger than +50 delta I'll take the opportunities to short.

Mine is very much directional bets. Just make use of options as loss stops.
 
Quote from OddTrader:

Update: A straddle strategy (rather than a collar) should be used for this week.

What I meant above was playing with a straddle-type options, for some sophisticated traders, a strategy like Double Slingshot (playing in either direction) may be used.

This thread is designed for vacationer-type players/investors. Therefore sophisticated traders who don't like collars for limited profits may also consider to use SlingshotHedge type strategy: Long 100% UL, Sell 200% OTM call, Buy 100% put & Buy 200% FOTM call.
 
Quote from OddTrader:

Week 10Jan2001 Short 1262.00

Another typo just found below.

The abobe Short signal was actually for the Week 3Jan2011, producing a losing week.

For the Week 10Jan2011, signal was Long 1262.00, a winning week.
 
Another note is due to their equivalent profit/loss profile, some traders may prefer using vertical spreads, rather than collars.

This topic has been discussed many times before on some other threads.
 
Quote from OddTrader:

Another note is due to their equivalent profit/loss profile, some traders may prefer using vertical spreads, rather than collars.

This topic has been discussed many times before on some other threads.

This thread is not intented to discuss any adjustments of collars, backspreads as dynamically converted from vertical spreads (collars equivalents), or calendar collars.

People interested in this complexity/aspect of collar spreads can go to some threads like the one (There are more than 30 threads on this site talking about collars, as of today.) below for further discussions.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=186575&highlight=collar*
 
Quote from OddTrader:

There are many different structures of Collar strategy that I am currently exploring:
- Long UL, Sell ATM put & Buy OTM call;
- Long UL, Sell ATM call & Buy OTM put;
- Long UL, Sell OTM call & Buy ATM put;
- Long UL, Sell OTM call & Buy OTM put;
- Long UL, Sell OTM calll & Buy ITM put;
- Long 100% UL, Sell 50% OTM call & Buy 100% OTM put;
- etc;

You can pick whichever collar strategy (and your preferred strike prices) you like.

Perhaps (and naturally) not everyone is familiar with collars. Hopefully this thread would be useful not only for vacationer-style investors, but also for some layman traders.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collar_(finance)

In finance a collar is an option strategy that limits the range of possible positive or negative returns on an underlying to a specific range.

A collar is created by an investor being:

* Long the underlying
* long a put option at strike price X (called the "floor")
* Short a call option at strike price (X+a) (called the "cap")

These latter two are a long Risk reversal position. So:

Underlying - Risk_Reversal = Collar

The premium income from selling the call reduces the cost of purchasing the put. The amount saved depends on the strike price of the two options. If the premium of the long call is exactly equal to the cost of the put, the strategy is known as a "zero cost collar". [Strictly speaking the name should be "zero premium collar" as the cost of holding the position can be potentially high if the price of the underlying rises above the strike level of the call.]

At expiration the value (but not the profit) of the collar will be:

* zero if the price of the underlying is below X
* positive if the price of the underlying is between X and (X + a)

The maximum value occurs for any price of the underlying above X+a.


Example

Consider an investor who owns one hundred shares of a stock with a current share price of $5. An investor could construct a collar by buying one put with a strike price of $3 and selling one call with a strike price of $7. The collar would ensure that the gain on the portfolio will be no higher than $2 and the loss will be no worse than $2 (before deducting the net cost of the put option, i.e., the cost of the put option less what is received for selling the call option).

There are three possible scenarios when the options expire:

* If the stock price is above the $7 strike price on the call he wrote, the person who bought the call from the investor will exercise the purchased call; the investor effectively sells the shares at the $7 strike price. This would lock in a $2 profit for the investor. He only makes a $2 profit (minus fees), no matter how high the share price goes.

* If the stock price drops below the $3 strike price on the put then the investor may exercise the put and the person who sold it is forced to buy the investor's 100 shares at $3. The investor loses $2 on the stock, but can only lose $2 (plus fees), no matter how low the price of the stock goes.

* If the stock price is between the two strike prices at the expiration date, both options expire unexercised, and the investor is left with the 100 shares whose value is that stock price (x100), plus the cash gained from selling the call option, minus the price paid to buy the put option, minus fees.

One source of risk is counterparty risk. If the stock price expires below the $3 floor then the counterparty may default on the put contract, thus creating the potential for losses up to the full value of the stock (plus fees).

Why do this?

In times of high volatility, or in bear markets, it can be useful to limit the downside risk to a portfolio. One obvious way to do this is to sell the stock. In the above example, if an investor just sold the stock, the investor would get $5. This may be fine, but it poses additional questions. Does the investor have an acceptable investment available to put the money from the sale into? What are the transaction costs associated with liquidating the portfolio? Would the investor rather just hold onto the stock? What are the tax consequences?

If it makes more sense to hold on to the stock (or other underlying asset), the investor can limit that downside risk that lies below the strike price on the put in exchange for giving up the upside above the strike price on the call. Another advantage is that the cost of setting up a collar is (usually) free or nearly free.The price received for selling the call is used to buy the put—one pays for the other.

Finally, using a collar strategy takes the return from the probable to the definite. That is, when an investor owns a stock (or another underlying asset) and has an expected return, that expected return is only the mean of the distribution of possible returns, weighted by their probability. The investor may get a higher or lower return. When an investor who owns a stock (or other underlying asset) uses a collar strategy, the investor knows that the return can be no higher than the return defined by strike price on the call, and no lower than the return that results from the strike price of the put.

References

* Hull, John (2005). Fundamentals of Futures and Options Markets, 5th ed. Upper Saddle River, NJ: Prentice Hall. ISBN 0-13-144565-0.
UQ
 
What others say about collars:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66507&highlight=collar*

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Quote from Algorithm:

Collars are very effective in squeezing out additional profits during downturns in your stocks, but I think the primary thing we as traders and investors have to keep in mind is the fact that patience is a virtue and that sometimes we can be wrong. Now, what the hell does that have to do with collars? Well, for starters, you're never gonna be right 100% of the time and what is the measure of the trader/investor (and eventually his/her account) is knowing when you ARE GOING TO BE wrong (notice, not when you are already wrong) and adjusting/accepting your circumstance. If you don't marry your stocks/positions, then collars can be used to their greatest advantage. First of all, collars (in my experience) are most effective when you have a good understanding of the underlying and how it moves and also have DEVELOPED AN EDGE when it comes to trading and investing in it. Usually I have little to no problems placing collars on issues I have owned for long periods of time and are comfortable with. The reason I know I can be successful using collars on those issues are:

1.) Extensive familiarity with the issue and developed fundamental/technical analysis surrounding it. (my edge)
2.) Confidence in the fact that I know if I am patient enough the issue will always provide me an opportunity for re-entry.
3.) The discipline to know that stocks don't/can't love me back and are just vehicles to garner more financial resources with which I can attain goals.

You see this horribly esoteric answer is necessary in order to provide your questions sufficient answers because you really are not asking about collar strategies. Rather, you are having problems with some fundamentals regarding trading in general. You see, each and every strategy has advantages and disadvantages as well as times when one approach will reap more rewards than others.

The simple answer to your question about how not to pay too much for insurance is easy to answer. The basic implementation of the collar strategy offsets your cost for "insurance". I refuse to really call it insurance since I see it more as locking in profits and profiting more on downswings. If you are finding yourself unable to sell calls at the time that you are buying puts, well then you are using some other strategy than a collar.

Secondly, how not to have your stocks get called away, well that could possibly be the easiest to answer. Simply put, you have to either unwind the collar at a cost in order to keep your stock, or you must let it go. It's a part of the life of trading. Sometimes you have to sell and take profits, otherwise you are not trading, you're betting and by the sounds of it you are losing some of those bets.

You see, if you have your edge developed and are disciplined as a TRADER, then you will know when to collar a stock and usually you will do just fine. Yes, sometimes the strategy will not work as best is should or could have, but hey we are all human.

Remember, if you are finding yourself hesitating on one side of the collar execution strategy, then you are not collaring a stock. If you are just buying puts without selling the offsetting calls, then you are simply buying insurance, and we all know that insurance is expensive until you need it. I think maybe you are more unsure of when to use a collar on a particular equity than on how to buy "cheap insurance" and avoid "losing" your stocks.

Remember, to everything there is a season.
In options, to every situation there is a strategy. The trick is choosing the correct one and then executing.

Happy trading/investing ;)
UQ
 
Quote from atticus:

Why a collar instead of the bull vertical?

Of course you can use verticals if you prefer to.

Anyway here is a short answer.

My guess is most vacationers alike would simply want to know whether the direction of the underlying is right or wrong by how many points for the trade.

This type of investors would think the bought/sold options associated with the underlying are basically peripherals (to the underlying).

Constantly checking the prices of associated options (or even learning complicate options or various verticals strategies) would be too much for them sometimes.
 
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