Oddiduro's Trading Oddessy

[OPTIONAL777]

Quote from birgulino:

I have to compliment Oddiduro for many reasons.

- He does have a trading strategy and his trust is in it.
- He does want to share his knowledge with others/new traders
just as he had stated it on several occasions.
- He is willing to put his trade calls/recommendations here for public scrutiny - as I look around I can see that not too many people have chosen to do so it the past.
- He is willing to tolerate the relentless bashing from some people who obviously have nothing else to do with their time and their only joy in life is to publicly ridicule others.
- Even if he makes only papertrades (as some here say) : it is simply irrelevant. If he makes a good call (name of stock, trade action, stoploss and profit target) and gives reasoning for that particular trade - that is still a good call! That is the most that can be expected on ET!
- But let me make a prediction here Oddiduro. You will never get respect on this forum. The reason is very simple: no matter how many good/profitable trades (or trade recommendations) you post here, some people will simply say that you lied/you are still stupid because those results "simply cannot be achieved"/you got lucky/etc., etc., etc. Even if you provided an audited brokerage statement they would question it. It is part of human nature: a confused mind always says 'no' - a confused mind will never ask how it can be done - because their mind says it cannot be done.
- Anyway, do not pay attention to the bashers, bashing is their hobby, part of their life style. Go ahead and post those trades (or trade recommendations): the newbies and those who are open to at least look at new things will appreciate your efforts.
That is why Elitrader.com was created - this was not supposed to be the forum for bashers, this place supposed to be where people get together to share their views, knowledge about the markets.

Keep up the good work!

Why are people bashing Oddidiohohoho?

Go back and read the MM thread when Oddidiohohoho burst onto the scene. Check out his attitude. You will see why so many people bash him, myself included.

If he would simply apologize for having been such an ass, join the community rather than placing himself in a position of superiority--either as a trader, a paper trader, or someone who uses a particular system--I think the bashing would stop.

Also, if his focus is on the "newbies" and he is a real trader, he should emphasize that any system is only as good as the ability to execute it.

Paper traders NEVER talk about execution of the system, or the risks and emotional challenges it takes to execute any trading system in real time with their own money at risk.....as they have no direct experience of those factors. On paper it is easy, in fact it is not.

I believe that you can take a good trader, a good executioner, and give him any winning system to trade and he will do well.

On the other hand, you can take a bad trader, give him the best system, and he will fail.

Until I hear Oddidiohohoho talking like a real trader, I keep him in the category of a theoretical math major, living in an ivory tower away from the reality of the markets and trading.

 

[jack rabid]

odd,

it is comendable that you are posting a journal, and i look forward to seeing murrymyth crushed into oblivion by the rigers of the real market. However, i am very confused---- when you challenged marketsurfer to a microsoft calling contest--marketsurfer call the low in MSFT by 1 penny--- you were WAY WAY OFF utilizing murrymyth. calling a stock within one penny is what murreymyth himself claims to do on a regular basis-- surfer did this, in real time, before the fact, here on elite trader. but that is beside the point. the point here is--did you ever even acknowledge that you lost the contest and congratulate marketsurfer on a phenomenial call ?? NO NO NO NO NO. it is this attitude exactly why you are getting a hard time here, the et traders rip on you when you are dishonest and help you when you are honest. just trying to help you odd one. and by the way IBM is going up.

jack

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Quote from jack rabid:

odd,

it is comendable that you are posting a journal, and i look forward to seeing murrymyth crushed into oblivion by the rigers of the real market. However, i am very confused---- when you challenged marketsurfer to a microsoft calling contest--marketsurfer call the low in MSFT by 1 penny--- you were WAY WAY OFF utilizing murrymyth. calling a stock within one penny is what murreymyth himself claims to do on a regular basis-- surfer did this, in real time, before the fact, here on elite trader. but that is beside the point. the point here is--did you ever even acknowledge that you lost the contest and congratulate marketsurfer on a phenomenial call ?? NO NO NO NO NO. it is this attitude exactly why you are getting a hard time here, the et traders rip on you when you are dishonest and help you when you are honest. just trying to help you odd one. and by the way IBM is going up.

jack

I concur with your comments...obviously.

IBM going up? Any other recommendations?

 

[oddiduro]

Quote from birgulino:

I have to compliment Oddiduro for many reasons.

- He does have a trading strategy and his trust is in it.
- He does want to share his knowledge with others/new traders
just as he had stated it on several occasions.
- He is willing to put his trade calls/recommendations here for public scrutiny - as I look around I can see that not too many people have chosen to do so it the past.
- He is willing to tolerate the relentless bashing from some people who obviously have nothing else to do with their time and their only joy in life is to publicly ridicule others.
- Even if he makes only papertrades (as some here say) : it is simply irrelevant. If he makes a good call (name of stock, trade action, stoploss and profit target) and gives reasoning for that particular trade - that is still a good call! That is the most that can be expected on ET!
- But let me make a prediction here Oddiduro. You will never get respect on this forum. The reason is very simple: no matter how many good/profitable trades (or trade recommendations) you post here, some people will simply say that you lied/you are still stupid because those results "simply cannot be achieved"/you got lucky/etc., etc., etc. Even if you provided an audited brokerage statement they would question it. It is part of human nature: a confused mind always says 'no' - a confused mind will never ask how it can be done - because their mind says it cannot be done.
- Anyway, do not pay attention to the bashers, bashing is their hobby, part of their life style. Go ahead and post those trades (or trade recommendations): the newbies and those who are open to at least look at new things will appreciate your efforts.
That is why Elitrader.com was created - this was not supposed to be the forum for bashers, this place supposed to be where people get together to share their views, knowledge about the markets.

Keep up the good work!

Thank You for the kind words. I realized that there are some trader "ghosts" on this site, that didn't make it after several years, and now are here simply to tell others that it cannot be done.

I became aware of Elite Trader after TraderBambu, a trader who trades MM in real time came to another MM group and commented that this is a site full of ignorance.

Since I am a postion trader, I do have a good amount of time on my hands, so I joined and began reading the MurreyMath thread.

A few, some of whom have followed me here, attacked a system that they have NEVER even STUDIED, much less TRADED.

I challenged Marketsurfer to a trading contest in real time.

I went and scalped a short trade on MSFT during a rampant up day.

I realized that I had misread surfer, that he actually does trade, and is bold enough to post his calls, rather than hide behind a teminal and throw stones, as some here do.

I also recognized that there is a deep attitude of cynicism on this site, and many new traders will get discouraged from that crap.

Some here are so simple as to be unable to focus on trading, but rather decide to focus on why I use my handle in the third person at times.

They believe Oddiduro is fictional paper trader, so I will allow them to continue in that belief. So this will be a trading journal from Oddiduro, the fictional paper trader.

Thank You again for your encouragement, and the confirmation that there are many on this site looking for assistance in their calling, but are also frustrated at the old and bitter failures who would rather lead them to failure as well.

 

[oddiduro]

Quote from jack rabid:

odd,

it is comendable that you are posting a journal, and i look forward to seeing murrymyth crushed into oblivion by the rigers of the real market. However, i am very confused---- when you challenged marketsurfer to a microsoft calling contest--marketsurfer call the low in MSFT by 1 penny--- you were WAY WAY OFF utilizing murrymyth. calling a stock within one penny is what murreymyth himself claims to do on a regular basis-- surfer did this, in real time, before the fact, here on elite trader. but that is beside the point. the point here is--did you ever even acknowledge that you lost the contest and congratulate marketsurfer on a phenomenial call ?? NO NO NO NO NO. it is this attitude exactly why you are getting a hard time here, the et traders rip on you when you are dishonest and help you when you are honest. just trying to help you odd one. and by the way IBM is going up.

jack

I said to surfer in a private email that my sentiment had changed. MSFT was at 54 at the time. I also said that the 56 market call was very soft, but I trade what I see at the time. When I saw something different, I changed my stance immediately. As I have told others, with surfers permission, I will post that archived email, and the chart that went with it.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Quote from oddiduro:




Thank You for the kind words. I realized that there are some trader "ghosts" on this site, that didn't make it after several years, and now are here simply to tell others that it cannot be done.

I became aware of Elite Trader after TraderBambu, a trader who trades MM in real time came to another MM group and commented that this is a site full of ignorance.

Since I am a postion trader, I do have a good amount of time on my hands, so I joined and began reading the MurreyMath thread.

A few, some of whom have followed me here, attacked a system that they have NEVER even STUDIED, much less TRADED.

I challenged Marketsurfer to a trading contest in real time.

I went and scalped a short trade on MSFT during a rampant up day.

I realized that I had misread surfer, that he actually does trade, and is bold enough to post his calls, rather than hide behind a teminal and throw stones, as some here do.

I also recognized that there is a deep attitude of cynicism on this site, and many new traders will get discouraged from that crap.

Some here are so simple as to be unable to focus on trading, but rather decide to focus on why I use my handle in the third person at times.

They believe Oddiduro is fictional paper trader, so I will allow them to continue in that belief. So this will be a trading journal from Oddiduro, the fictional paper trader.

Thank You again for your encouragement, and the confirmation that there are many on this site looking for assistance in their calling, but are also frustrated at the old and bitter failures who would rather lead them to failure as well.

So let me understand this, whoever is the author of the above quote.

The trades you post, are they paper trades by you? Or is it Oddidiohohoho, or is it the spirit of Murrey being channeled by you, or are there other multiple personalities involved with the posting of this journal?

Dude, all you have to do to silence the critics is put up, and they will shut up.

That you have a need to create some "fictional" thread only underscores your paper trading mentality.

Just post the damn trades, it is that simple. Post real trades, not fictional ones.

All you can prove with paper trades is that you can be a good paper trader, but then you have still proven nothing about real trading.

You just don't get it, do you? Or should I say "Oddiduro doesn't get it?"

 

[jack rabid]

since i am computer luddite, i am unable to post challenge qoutes here, where murreymirth collapsed when faced with the MSFT challenge. perhaps 777 or another puter wiz will post.

none the less, your call on AZO is wrong. a buy set up ?? R U CRAZY ?? this is a classic short situation. i pray that no newbies are looking over your shoulder on this one. AZO is going to DROP


jack

 

[OPTIONAL777]

I will look back to the MM thread to post the facts of the challenge by Oddiduro, the meeting of the challenge by Marketsurfer, the results of the challenge (in which Marketsurfer came within a penny) and the unwillingness of Oddiduro to admit that he lost that challenge, yet has refused to admit that "his" system of trading was proven less than Marketsurfer's system on that trade.

 

[hardrock375]

Quote from birgulino:
I have to compliment Oddiduro for many reasons.
He does have a trading strategy and his trust is in it.

In case you have not noticed, most people around here have some sort of strategy. If they did not trust it, they would probably either change to something else, or quit trading altogether.

Quote from birgulino:

- He does want to share his knowledge with others/new traders
just as he had stated it on several occasions.
- He is willing to put his trade calls/recommendations here for public scrutiny - as I look around I can see that not too many people have chosen to do so it the past.

No shortage of people willing to share or make calls on this site. Look around, every one or two days there is a new prognosticator.

Quote from birgulino:

- He is willing to tolerate the relentless bashing from some people who obviously have nothing else to do with their time and their only joy in life is to publicly ridicule others.

Can I help it if someone may be a masochist?

Quote from birgulino:

- Even if he makes only papertrades (as some here say) : it is simply irrelevant. If he makes a good call (name of stock, trade action, stoploss and profit target) and gives reasoning for that particular trade - that is still a good call! That is the most that can be expected on ET!

Paper trades and calls are just that, predictions. Make real trades, with real money, and justify/explain them before you put them on. That MIGHT get you respect around here.

Quote from birgulino:

- But let me make a prediction here Oddiduro. You will never get respect on this forum. The reason is very simple: no matter how many good/profitable trades (or trade recommendations) you post here, some people will simply say that you lied/you are still stupid because those results "simply cannot be achieved"/you got lucky/etc., etc., etc. Even if you provided an audited brokerage statement they would question it. It is part of human nature: a confused mind always says 'no' - a confused mind will never ask how it can be done - because their mind says it cannot be done.

See above. Post real predictions before the trade, trade them with real money, and post real results.

Quote from birgulino:

- Anyway, do not pay attention to the bashers, bashing is their hobby, part of their life style. Go ahead and post those trades (or trade recommendations): the newbies and those who are open to at least look at new things will appreciate your efforts.
That is why Elitrader.com was created - this was not supposed to be the forum for bashers, this place supposed to be where people get together to share their views, knowledge about the markets.

Pay attention to the bashers. They hold their attitudes and opinions because (in most cases) they have been around this site, and will continue to be around this site, longer than the fly-by-night paper traders, hucksters, shills, and service salesmen.

Quote from birgulino:
Keep up the good work!

Ditto. What he said.

 

[WDGann]

I don't get it...

Now, you're a hypothetical guy??? Huh??? Is this guy a schitzo or some kinda freak??? Your logic is beyond my comprehension...

So what... these trades are hypothetical... so whether you make good calls or not, it doesn't matter then... Or are you going to use that hypothetical sh*t to cover your loss trap? or be boastful when it goes right...

Do you really think other people are stupid enough not to realize you're a paper trader? A lot of people are ignorant but they're not stupid as they seem...

Mind as well, leave ET. Go back to Yahoo! Chat or Murrey Message Board and live you life in fantasy...