Occupy Wall Street

I thought this was sort of relevant:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/oct/11/ftse-100-subsidiaries-tax-havens?newsfeed=true

I'm not sure how the US compares with this but it shows that those with wealth are keeping it out of reach of tax while everyone else is brutally subject to taxation.
I'm all for protecting your capital but it's a double standard when middle and lower income people can't do that because they don't have the means to open an account in the cayman islands or bermuda etc.
If they don't pay their taxes they're subject to having their homes invaded by bailifs because they're forced to live within the taxation zone.
The government can't oppress the upper classes (and by this I mean wealthy individuals or corporations personified) as their wealth exists outside of the government's tax jurisdiction while your regular working person taking home a typical salary gets it sliced away from their income. And because they can't deal with the upper classes their grip on their tax slaves becomes tighter. That's injustice, and it's only solvable through some kind of global revolution.
Damnit I'm starting to sound like a marxist!
 
Quote from Bob111:

i got it now..this is how obama's plan of saving jobs works. look at the picture: one gvt employee(police) arresting another tit sucker(who suppose to be at work,work, that is paid and guaranteed by my school taxes)-the unhappy teacher. and hey! viola! everybody got busy! jobs saved! specially at justice dept!
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That is so funny and spot on.

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Quote from nitro:

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world...

 - Declaration of Independence

The two party system is dead.
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If a protestor of any political persuasion dares to take up arms against the state, YOU will be crushed, 100X worse than TianAnMen. Fancy notions of freedom are fine and are useful as a national MYTH, but once you pose a serious challenge to the state you will 100% be kaput.

It is impossible for any revolution in America to succeed, just like in any other country really, without at least a partial subversion of the security forces, i.e. either the Army or police.If you can break the monopoly of violence that the state holds, then you might, just might have a chance.

Other than that, you can tear off of all your clothes, march around carrying banners, exercising your "freedom" but don't count on shit to change.
 
Quote: WFT are teachers protesting about?


That they are fat slobs who can't buy three houses for 1.5m that they can't afford with no down payment, and are too stupid to get a bigger pay check in, but feel as though successes must pay for 49 other people in the unions.
 
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Where are the 24 million people that are unemployed? Numbers, more numbers.
 
This is very similar to the Anna Hazare Movement that recently happened in India. He was protesting against massive corruption in the Indian government. Here in the U.S. corruption has become legal!! i.e. bailouts etc.

Where is Anna Hazare?
 
socialism for the rich and capitalism for the (working) poor is the new slogan for mixed economies like the US and Western Europe.
 
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Is there a more greedy group than unions? Especially public employee unions?
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this whole thing smells like a huge pile of horse shit. how in US they come up with something like this? think about it-PUBLIC EMPLOYEE unions! they unite against what? us,the people, the tax payers. this whole thing with gvt employees unions is fucked up and should be banned once and forever.
you work for gvt in exchange for smaller wage(smaller than same job in private sector), plus early retirement and FREE and guaranteed benefits(such as medical insurance) and guaranteed, BUT small pension(cause you retired early and can and should work after retirement. that's should be it. no need for unions. if current wage in private sector is paying less-then you should either receive less OR private subcontractor will be hired to do your job, if there is an disagreement. that simple..
 
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