Occupiers-What Do You Want?

Quote from CaptainObvious:

A Ron Paul supporter. Pretty good rant. You won't see this on FOX. You won't see the corporatist establishment show any coherent protesters.
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Actually I did see him on Fox. Fox has given some air time to the "end the fed" contingent of the occupy movement. What you didn't see in most of that video is people were booing him and saying Ron Paul is not the answer. The guy had like 3 supporters there. The rest ignored him. Sorry Captain.
 
1968 all over again. Nothing fresh or progressive about this "American Autumn." Quite lame.

They won't get the attention they want. So they'll resort to anarchy and disrespect for the rule of law and piss off a lot of people. In the end, it will fizzle out and be forgotten.

A bunch of sheeple with signs, influenced by tired Marxists and Foreign propaganda. They all forget and ignore that America was founded on suspicion of government and protecting the freedom and prosperity of the individual --two ideas most of the World doesn't get and Marx ignored.

If these young sheeple need inspiration, perhaps they should read the history books on America --things that took place long before their Marxist teachers were born. Perhaps they'll also realize ideas from abroad are not necessarily better.
 
Recommend people watching a 1994 Charlie Rose interview with the late James Goldsmith. Scary how he called the dangers of unfettered globalization (i.e. via free trade agreements), if you didn't think know the date of the video you could have been fooled he is talking about right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PQrz8F0dBI
 
It seems the protesters include druggies and criminals.

Lured by cheap drugs and free food, creepy thugs have infiltrated the crowd of protesters camped out in Zuccotti Park for Occupy Wall Street, The Post has learned.

“I got warrants. I’m running from the law,” boasted Dave, 24, a scrawny, unshaven miscreant in filthy clothes from Stamford, Conn. “I’m not even supposed to be here, but it’s as good a spot as any to hide.”

Wanted for burglary, the drug-addled fugitive said some of his hard-partying pals clued him in that the protest was a good place to be fed, get wasted and crash.


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/it_nyc_lam_sterdam_bmE4vlV5aDUWhBRv9IbaiK#ixzz1aOMq9YK5
 
Quote from achilles28:

Look around, Maverick. America is bought and paid for. We live in a fascist plutocracy where the top 50-100 Corporations run Government, for their profit. The past 30 years witnessed the systematic dismantling and pillaging of America because politicians opened their legs for campaign donations and the retarded Boomers couldn't give a shit to look under the hood. We are ~3 years out from Greece. If you think that's "okay", that its 'natural' to ship our middle class to China and mass immigrate H1B's to decimate what's left of the IT trade, that 20 years of asset bubbles and moral hazard is business as usual, excuse me, you're the problem. You Boomers really handed us a gigantic pile of shit. Who gives a flying fuck about all the plasma TV's, Ipods and ponzied McMansions when the Country is teetering on the brink of insolvency? Economically, this is just the beginning. The 5 Trillion bailout to Wallstreet - while necessary to stave off a total collapse - only kicked the can down the road. All this was totally avoidable had Politicians and voters did their job 30 years ago. That we can agree. The nation is filled with reactionary idiots who voted for the free lunch every time. On the flipside, politicians and Corporations were equally on the take, except they knew the score, and they knew the irreparable damage their changes would do to the Country. The idiot flag-wavers kept their mouths shut for handouts, and here we are. The Occupy Wallstreet Crew are largely social communists and totally backward in their solutions. A lot of them are moronic College kids. HOWEVER, the difference between them and the Boomers? They know when they're getting fucked. OWS is entirely right about the problem (Crony Capitalism) and entirely wrong about the solution (Social Communism). We are at a crossroads. 2008 was the culmination of 30 years of incestuous policy between Government and Wallstreet (Greenspan put, repeal of Glass-Stegal, ZIRP), Fortune 100 (offshoring, global wage arbitrage) and bribes to the underclass (HUD, GSE subprime mandate). Things will get worse. And so will the demonstrations. As for their demands, 90% bullshit. However, we can use this moment to push for REAL SOLUTIONS to REAL PROBLEMS. Crony capitalism must end, we must get back to hard money, end the FED. OSW is the beginning. A Large-Scale Social Awakening and first-steps to widespread rebellion against this existing parasitic, cancerous social "order".


Nice analysis. Good summary.
 
Quote from achilles28:

Too young, but I read about him. Yea, he was right. Nobody gave a shit....

They will soon, tho. Greece is only the beginning, friends...


This is the effect of globalization. What these OWS people are protesting is the decimation of the American middle class. They just can't define it correctly. Ross Perot and this guy predicted it 20 years ago.


http://desip.igc.org/gatt01.html
http://desip.igc.org/gatt02.html

"You must remember that one of the characteristics of developing countries is that a small handful of people controls the, overwhelming majority of the nation's resources. It is these people who own most of their nation's industrial, commercial and financial enterprises and who assemble the cheap labour which is used to manufacture products for the developed world. Thus, it is the poor in the rich countries who will subsidize the rich in the poor countries. This will have a serious impact on the social cohesion of nations. "



" The losers will, of course, be those people who become unemployed as a result of production being moved to low-cost areas. There will also be those who lose their jobs because their employers do not move offshore and are not able to compete with cheap imported products. Finally, there will be those whose earning capacity is reduced following the shift in the sharing of value-added away from labor.
The winners will be those who can benefit from an almost inexhaustible supply of very cheap labor. They will be the companies who move their production offshore to low-cost areas, the companies who can pay lower salaries at home; and those who have capital to invest where labour is cheapest, and who as a result will receive larger dividends. But they will be like the winners of a poker game on the Titanic. The wounds inflicted on their societies will be too deep, and brutal consequences could follow. "
 
Quote from TheDudeofLife:

This is the effect of globalization. What these OWS people are protesting is the decimation of the American middle class. They just can't define it correctly. Ross Perot and this guy predicted it 20 years ago.


http://desip.igc.org/gatt01.html
http://desip.igc.org/gatt02.html

"You must remember that one of the characteristics of developing countries is that a small handful of people controls the, overwhelming majority of the nation's resources. It is these people who own most of their nation's industrial, commercial and financial enterprises and who assemble the cheap labour which is used to manufacture products for the developed world. Thus, it is the poor in the rich countries who will subsidize the rich in the poor countries. This will have a serious impact on the social cohesion of nations. "



" The losers will, of course, be those people who become unemployed as a result of production being moved to low-cost areas. There will also be those who lose their jobs because their employers do not move offshore and are not able to compete with cheap imported products. Finally, there will be those whose earning capacity is reduced following the shift in the sharing of value-added away from labor.
The winners will be those who can benefit from an almost inexhaustible supply of very cheap labor. They will be the companies who move their production offshore to low-cost areas, the companies who can pay lower salaries at home; and those who have capital to invest where labour is cheapest, and who as a result will receive larger dividends. But they will be like the winners of a poker game on the Titanic. The wounds inflicted on their societies will be too deep, and brutal consequences could follow. "

Actually the middle class was destroyed by the Fed through inflation as well as enduring a majority of the tax burden in this country. The poor and the rich pay no taxes, the middle class does. A dollar in 1913 is worth .05 today due to our monetary policies. That's where your middle class is.
 
Quote from pspr:

In all honesty, they don't know why they are protesting. QUOTE]

Agreed. They have no clue what Wall Street even does. I have to laugh at the sheeple these days. They're dumber than ever before.
 
Quote from TheDudeofLife:

This is the effect of globalization. What these OWS people are protesting is the decimation of the American middle class. They just can't define it correctly. Ross Perot and this guy predicted it 20 years ago.


http://desip.igc.org/gatt01.html
http://desip.igc.org/gatt02.html

"You must remember that one of the characteristics of developing countries is that a small handful of people controls the, overwhelming majority of the nation's resources. It is these people who own most of their nation's industrial, commercial and financial enterprises and who assemble the cheap labour which is used to manufacture products for the developed world. Thus, it is the poor in the rich countries who will subsidize the rich in the poor countries. This will have a serious impact on the social cohesion of nations. "



" The losers will, of course, be those people who become unemployed as a result of production being moved to low-cost areas. There will also be those who lose their jobs because their employers do not move offshore and are not able to compete with cheap imported products. Finally, there will be those whose earning capacity is reduced following the shift in the sharing of value-added away from labor.
The winners will be those who can benefit from an almost inexhaustible supply of very cheap labor. They will be the companies who move their production offshore to low-cost areas, the companies who can pay lower salaries at home; and those who have capital to invest where labour is cheapest, and who as a result will receive larger dividends. But they will be like the winners of a poker game on the Titanic. The wounds inflicted on their societies will be too deep, and brutal consequences could follow. "

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