Obsession with trading and the markets. Does it get better or only worse?

But isn't it also true that in order to become consistent you need to be incredibly dedicated for a while?

I'm fairly consistent now, but not yet 'printing money'.
Yes.

When you move from fairly consistent to consistent you are home.

Nobody prints money - with the exception of Jerome Powell and Jim Simons.
 
Just my opinion, day trading is too much work for the rewards.
My opinion again, when holding multiple stocks overnight for lengthy periods, days/weeks/months, the stocks make you money while you sleep.
It is hugely common in my experience, as soon as the market opens my portfolio will leap up in value.
This because of the sharp moves up right on open. A day trader will rarely or never catch these moves.
A common complaint I hear from daytraders is that holding overnight is risky and they would have trouble sleeping.
My answer: If you are careful with your picks, the bias is always upward/positive surprises more so than negative.
All of this translates to less work, higher profits, easier to compound.

I agree with this.

I initially started out swing trading stocks and made a relatively small fortune in a short amount of time. Luck? Sure. But I did use stops and had a basis for my stock selection. Eventually, I got caught inside a large losing trade (turned red on me instantly before I had even placed a stop) which got really large.

Took out my money and decided that if I had done so well knowing so little - I might as well set aside 6-12 months to learn the markets and become a trading God. For some reason, I got attracted to day trading and even convinced by certain individuals that it was the way to go.

That may have been a huge mistake. :)

It's taken me years of studies, research and developing custom tools with professional programmers to arrive at a place where I now seem to be doing well with day trading. Still not getting amazing results, but I can read the market fairly well and make a profit on most days.

I've done a few swing trades on the side in this period and pretty much always made a decent buck doing that. So, I'm definitely going to start doing that more actively in the future.

The bulk of my day trading methodology is finished and I've spent so much time developing it, so I will keep at it as long as I can make a buck. Maybe I can even become rich in time.

But if I were to do it all over - I would definitely stick with swing trades and pursue a more meaningful career as my main vocation.
 
Yes.

When you move from fairly consistent to consistent you are home.

Nobody prints money - with the exception of Jerome Powell and Jim Simons.

I usually make money 4/5 days in the week. Last week I had 5 green days.

Sadly, I still get the occasional large red day which makes a dent in my profits. If I can eliminate those while maximizing profits...
 
I usually make money 4/5 days in the week. Last week I had 5 green days.

Sadly, I still get the occasional large red day which makes a dent in my profits. If I can eliminate those while maximizing profits...
I consider a hit rate of 55% (same position size) over many years as consistent. A hit rate of 4/5 is extremely high.
 
Just my opinion, day trading is too much work for the rewards.
My opinion again, when holding multiple stocks overnight for lengthy periods, days/weeks/months, the stocks make you money while you sleep.
It is hugely common in my experience, as soon as the market opens my portfolio will leap up in value.
This because of the sharp moves up right on open. A day trader will rarely or never catch these moves.
A common complaint I hear from daytraders is that holding overnight is risky and they would have trouble sleeping.
My answer: If you are careful with your picks, the bias is always upward/positive surprises more so than negative.
All of this translates to less work, higher profits, easier to compound.
I swing too, so instead of spending my time clicking/trading I spend it on ET reading posts while waiting for the trade to play out. :banghead:
 
I admire your honesty because most people on the internet say they make fortunes!

Trying to make much more always ends up with going stupid then digging in and making a huge loss, who needs millions, not like people with millions ever spend it, so why bother making more than needed.
 
Hi all,

I've been following and trading the markets on/off for over 10 years now. Strangely, I seem to not be losing interest. If anything, it's getting worse.

I mostly day trade ES. Recently started trading the ETH session, too. So it's becoming a bit consuming. Either I'm trading or I'm doing trading research/reading. If I'm swing trading stocks - I usually check the quotes constantly there too.

Balanced life?

Trading is pretty much the last thing I think of when I fall asleep and the first thing on my mind when I wake up or when I wake up in the middle of the night (checking quotes, etc.)

The only time I seem to really unwind is on weekends when the markets are closed.

How's this for the rest of you guys? Especially those who've been doing it for a long time?

Maybe it gets 'better' eventually, but I see no signs of it so far. It's an all consuming lifestyle. And in some ways it's getting stressful.

Regards.

You either need a job outside of trading or a serious hobby...an activity that physically and mentally takes you away from trading.

I remember someone here saying they don't spend all day watching the screen and only have their computer on a few hours per day. Yet, he was consumed with trading...mentally to it to bed with him and mentally woke up in the morning with it.

It's almost the same as watching the screen all day. I hope you're making profits or at least made more money than you've put into it. Just as important, hopefully trading has not caused you any relationship problems with family and friends.

Trading that impacts the family & friends in a negative way...time to bury trading as in say goodbye to it. If that happens and you can't leave it alone...most likely you're addicted considering it does involve money.

wrbtrader
 
You either need a job outside of trading or a serious hobby...an activity that physically and mentally takes you away from trading.

Of course. I do. And I agree that's essential.

Just as important, hopefully trading has not caused you any relationship problems with family and friends.

Trading that impacts the family & friends in a negative way...time to bury trading as in say goodbye to it. If that happens and you can't leave it alone...most likely you're addicted considering it does involve money.

wrbtrader

Not close family and friends, but my social life definitely have been impacted negatively. There's only so many hours in a week and if you want to master the markets there needs to be sacrifices. At least that's how I see it.

Fortunately, I have a very patient girlfriend. :)
 
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