Quote from Ricter:
Your inclusion of the 99rs makes a good point, but people are always giving up and dropping out at some percentage of all those looking-- excepting the problematic 99rs, it's a wash.
You have made a very good argument, which ironically I'll be able to use later, in other threads: there's little doubt that there is no place to go for many, many people, motivated to get off welfare or not. And to bring home tens of thousands of our boys, well, there's no place for them, either.
Interestingly, my own sales, mostly in the US (it's nuts there right now), but to a good degree in Canada, too, are growing nicely. Welcome to another jobless recovery.
Quote from Ricter:
You're dead wrong about that, pspr. I used "Obama" because I knew it would get a rise out of the right. You guys do the same thing but with one important difference: you believe he's responsible for everything.
Quote from Tsing Tao:
i dont think obama is responsible for a lot of what is wrong with the economy. he certainly hasn't helped anything along - and has made some things worse. but i lay most of the blame at the foot of ben bernanke. the problem is that obama, claiming hope and change would come to the country, re-appointed the same idiot who directly contributed to the meltdown.
i read a nice analogy of it, though i regret i cannot recall the source. it said "we are re-appointing the same person (ben bernanke) who knocked over the expensive vase (the economy) and smashed it to bits. and our only justification for doing so was because he did a nice job in sweeping up the pieces." (paraphrased)
Quote from Cache Landing:
I'm just wondering to which tax cuts are we referring?
Are we talking about the Bush tax cuts that were simply not left to expire?
I'm only aware of a single significant tax cut that can be attributed to Obama right now. The one year reduction in FICA tax. All other main provisions of the Obama plan that could possibly have any effect on the overall economy were implemented during the Bush years, and then simply extended by Obama.
Which cut am I missing? <serious question>