Obama's Private Army now law. Hidden in health care bill

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So that's why the top 1% paid more in federal taxes in 2007 than the bottom 95%?

Awww, and my heart is bleeding purple piss for them. Poor babies are probably starving, right? Probably losing their retirement, right? Probably living in squalor, right? Fuck them! They've been bleeding the working man dry for decades with flat wages, reduced benefits, multi craft and ever broadening job descriptions, all the while seeing their pay and perks go through the roof. Every bit of it on the backs of those that produce while they shuffle paper back and forth.
And what, you think you're gonna' get some special break cause you hawk for them? Let me clue ya". You're just another worker bee in the crowd, disposable at their whim.
 
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Awww, and my heart is bleeding purple piss for them. Poor babies are probably starving, right? Probably losing their retirement, right? Probably living in squalor, right? Fuck them! They've been bleeding the working man dry for decades with flat wages, reduced benefits, multi craft and ever broadening job descriptions, all the while seeing their pay and perks go through the roof. Every bit of it on the backs of those that produce while they shuffle paper back and forth.
And what, you think you're gonna' get some special break cause you hawk for them? Let me clue ya". You're just another worker bee in the crowd, disposable at their whim.
Aw c'mon, Cap'n. Someone's gotta speak for the Forbes 400. They're so misunderstood. They really need someone with a good heart in their corner right now.
 
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Awww, and my heart is bleeding purple piss for them. Poor babies are probably starving, right? Probably losing their retirement, right? Probably living in squalor, right? Fuck them! They've been bleeding the working man dry for decades with flat wages, reduced benefits, multi craft and ever broadening job descriptions, all the while seeing their pay and perks go through the roof. Every bit of it on the backs of those that produce while they shuffle paper back and forth.
And what, you think you're gonna' get some special break cause you hawk for them? Let me clue ya". You're just another worker bee in the crowd, disposable at their whim.

Cap'n, you appear to be moving left, and I could be moving right. Let's introduce ourselves as we pass...

; )
 
First, you didn't quote Franklin, you just think you did by parroting something that's attributed to him but not sourced.

Second, I doubt Franklin would agree with neo's absurd statement that I quoted above.

Finally, if you had a clue about Franklin in general and his role in the Constitutional Convention in particular, we wouldn't be having this exchange

Who said it then? paine? tocqueville? If my attributing is wrong then I'll admit it.

Franklin had his doubts about the constitution and the durability of the republic, that why I said he might agree with Neo. Got that? I said 'might'.

In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its faults, — if they are such; because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of government but what may be a blessing to the people, if well administered; and I believe, farther, that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other.
-Ben Franklin
 
No, redistribution is from the politics of empathy.

I look around the capitalist world and see all kinds of socialistic reforms. It's as if the whole planet thinks the right way is some form of moderation.

Charity comes from empathy, socialism/redistribution comes from the political class leveraging the hate and envy of the masses.

What capitalist world? There's hardly none left. The US is the only one moving left outside of Venezuela, most everyone else moved left long ago. It's no secret that once people are hooked on other people's money they won't give it up, but in places like France, Sweden and Canada they found it to be such an economic black hole that they had to try and ease out.

Medicare, SSI, and medicaid are our great socialistic ventures, like almost all the rest they are in deep trouble.

I would not put too much faith in the wisdom of the masses of the planet. We are a self destructive species.
 
Quote from Ricter:

Cap'n, you appear to be moving left, and I could be moving right. Let's introduce ourselves as we pass...

; )

:D I keep telling ya'll I'm a conservative Dem, but the radical lefties won't buy it.
When it comes to labor I'm pretty far left. I have seen the wholesale destruction of the working class which has happened during the last 30 years. Lucky for me I saw it coming and went to the dark side, (management), years ago, but my heart is still with labor. That's why I always get my most cherished compliment from my crews. They call me a workin' man's boss. That means alot to me.
Here's what happened. Ronnie Rayguns opened then door for destruction with his deregulate everything philosophy. For all pratical purposes that made it more profitable to destroy industry rather than build it. His "trickle down" scheme really meant, what used to be an adeqaute, proportional amount of wealth being paid to the work force by the wealthy owners will now be reduced to a trickle. Those that followed his lead have taken it to it's most absurd extreme.
The wealthy of today are not the same as those of years past. 50+ years ago the wealthy actually built industries, invested in long term growth. Today's inbred, talentless rich fucks make their money destroying the economy, rather than growing it. What we have are a group of very intelligent people that have no moral compass, zero ethics, no gratitude and absolutley no sense of obligation to their country. It's about the dollar, and they'll chop us up and sell us buy the pound so long as it's profitable, and it's very fuckin' profitable to do just that.
Unfortunately the people have nothing but the government to look out for their best interests. The elites took care of that little problem by morphing corporate America and the government in to the same giant leech that sucks us all dry. Not much hope of getting it back to what it once was. It's just going to be a very different world for future generations of workers and it won't be better, except for the chosen few.
 
Is this your excuse for your own personal failures?
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They've been bleeding the working man dry for decades with flat wages, reduced benefits, multi craft and ever broadening job descriptions, all the while seeing their pay and perks go through the roof. Every bit of it on the backs of those that produce while they shuffle paper back and forth.
 
Look it up yourself.

Can you read? It's well known that Franklin had doubts. That's not my issue. My issue is with the haughty arrogance of someone on ET calling him naive as if they know better:

"Franklin was right about voting but a bit naive to not realize..."
Quote from Mav88:

Who said it then? paine? tocqueville? If my attributing is wrong then I'll admit it.

Franklin had his doubts about the constitution and the durability of the republic, that why I said he might agree with Neo. Got that? I said 'might'.
 
Will the IRS hire 16,500 new agents to enforce the health care law?

A: No. The law requires the IRS mostly to hand out tax credits, not collect penalties. The claim of 16,500 new agents stems from a partisan analysis based on guesswork and false assumptions, and compounded by outright misrepresentation.



http://factcheck.org/2010/03/irs-expansion/
 
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