Quote from bigdavediode:
People talk about a lot of nonsense.
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:
Oh he's immune right? Get off your pompous ass kissing cloud.
Obama's first and biggest contributer is sitting in Federal prison on a bribery conviction, a guy who he helped pocket 850k on a grant and a guy who he entered a questionable personal land deal with.
Just because a Harvard lawyer is smart enough to learn the Chicago Way-a wink and a nod isn't the smoking quid pro quo that can be played on a tape in front of a jury-don't think Obama is some sort of saint.
This is a man who used a cheap petition challenge against a popular incumbent to win his first election,
a guy whose campaign is run by Daley SvengaliDavid Axelrod a guy who earmarked money to his wife's employer after they tripled her salary just days after he was sworn into the Senate.
Just because something isn't the legal definition of bribery-although it's VERY nuanced-doesn't make it ethical, no matter what kool-aid drinkers want to believe.
Obama's whole tax scheme is more of a bribe than wealth redistribution: 95% of people get a check of a few hundred $$ once in the mail in exchange for helping him raise tax rates permanently to the 5% who were the ones paying most of the tax bill every year in the first place. Not to mention raising taxes on corporations who then pass the bill onto those who buy their products, thereby negating his "no tax increase for the middle class" empty promise.Quote from Pa(b)st Prime: Who is getting something in return?...
Quote from bigdavediode:
Oh save me. Pabst, you have to stop making things up. Paying too much for land is not questionable. Obama "pocketed" no money from a grant, certainly not 850,000 or his net worth would be higher.
Quote from Yannis:
Obama's whole tax scheme is more of a bribe than wealth redistribution: 95% of people get a check of a few hundred $$ once in the mail in exchange for helping him raise tax rates permanently to the 5% who were the ones paying most of the tax bill every year in the first place. Not to mention raising taxes on corporations who then pass the bill onto those who buy their products, thereby negating his "no tax increase for the middle class" empty promise.
Of course, the tragic irony is that as he takes money out of the private sector through higher taxes, the resulting weaker economy will hurt the people at the bottom a lot worse than those on the top. Then he will have more "bitter" people in his hands, who will need more help from politicians like him in the future... and again and again, the liberal pyramid scheme of deliberate, systematic victimization of the masses, a snare and a delusion to force them to need even more help from the Nanny State.
Only private enterprise works well in the long run, folks, let's face it. But we know that already. Oh well![]()
Quote from Brandonf:
Why is it that no one can just be fucking honest for a minute? Your not being honest, Pabst is not being honest, this is why everyone is so sick and tired of poltics in this country. What happened to being an AMERICAN? Forget a D or an R, how about you think of what's best for your country first, then your party? Novel concept huh?
Anyone who thinks Obama pocketed the $850k has shit for brains, but anyone who would read what Pabst wrote and try to claim that he is saying Obama got the $850k also has shit for brains or thinks the people reading the thread do..so which is it? Let me break this down for you...Obama did not get the money himself, he got money to run a campaign, he got access to other people with money so that he could get VOTES.
Times 10 to the 23'rd power! :eek:Quote from tortoise:
this country is so fucked.
