obamacare levels the playing field.

[mrbill]

Quote from Lucrum:

I've said before, you start exhibiting some intellectual honesty. Start calling out the lies and hypocrisy of your fellow liberals. And I'll be glad to. Until then, go fuck yourself. I really mean that.

OK, I'll take that as your way of extending an olive branch of sorts. I do call out nonsense when I see it, from either side. Please realize that I have been sort of stuck in another land for many months, and I do log into 3 or 4 boards each day. When my trading is slow, as I'm sure you can agree, we may spend more time on these boards.

I pride myself on my honesty, it has always worked well for me. Even if it didn't, I can't really change my thought process.

I do take the time to review posts, and cancel many, before actual posting. I try, and fail at times, as you pointed out, to be civil.

I think you wanted me to call out RCG about flying lessons, which I think I did. Either he took them or he did not. Period.

In the more deep discussion, I can't recall your asking me to evaluate someone's lies or hypocrisy, but am willing to review once again.

I can't recall the name of the service I used for a couple of charter flights a couple of years back, but when I get another of their emails, I'll mention their name. Do you work for a single service, or do you sort of free-lance? Wouldn't it be funny if we ran into each other? Please don't misunderstand, I have only done this, maybe 5 or 6 times, and I have always split the costs where it made sense.

Not sure how to sign off here. Maybe Buffoon, or maybe C@#$, or maybe just mrbill. I'm trying here.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from mrbill:

...I pride myself on my honesty...

Ha! May I suggest you start by being honest with yourself then.

I think you wanted me to call out RCG about flying lessons, which I think I did....

Not really, you tried to downplay his lie and give him a pass. Just last night you made the utterly absurd statement that he was "winning" our arguments. Despite all evidence to the contrary. (see above again)

In the more deep discussion, I can't recall your asking me to evaluate someone's lies or hypocrisy....

What's generally refereed to as selective memory. (see above...again)

I can't recall the name of the service I used for a couple of charter flights a couple of years back, but when I get another of their emails, I'll mention their name. Do you work for a single service, or do you sort of free-lance?

Where the fuck is this coming from? I don't do charter.

Wouldn't it be funny if we ran into each other?

If you say so

Not sure how to sign off here. Maybe Buffoon, or maybe C@#$, or maybe just mrbill. I'm trying here.

May I suggest: "intellectually dishonest schizophrenic"?

 

[mrbill]

Quote from Lucrum:

Ha! May I suggest you start by being honest with yourself then.

Not really, you tried to downplay his lie and give him a pass. Just last night you made the utterly absurd statement that he was "winning" our arguments. Despite all evidence to the contrary. (see above again)

What's generally refereed to as selective memory. (see above...again)
Where the fuck is this coming from? I don't do charter. If you say soMay I suggest: "intellectually dishonest schizophrenic"?

OK, not schizo at all, pretty much the same all day long. And, I have to be utterly honest with myself, day in and day out.

My comment about winning arguments, was simply what I've noticed when you tend to get caught up in the Hatfield and McCoy thing between the two of you instead of discussing the topic at hand. But that's nothing to dwell on, you two have your own arrangement.

And, excuse me if I was wrong again. I thought you did private pilot duties, but did not work for a scheduled carrier. Perhaps you would enlighten me a bit, thanks.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from mrbill:

...I thought you did private pilot duties, but did not work for a scheduled carrier. Perhaps you would enlighten me a bit, thanks.

F.A.R. part 91 is what I do, corporate/private jets. Air taxi or "Charter" flying is F.A.R. part 135. Generally, with some exceptions, done by the less experienced over worked and under paid guys.
I've been very fortunate (so far) in my 30 year career to have avoided doing any charter flying.

 

[mrbill]

Quote from kmgilroy89:

I really don't understand why we can't cover everybody with the money that we already spend. Australia lives very similarly to us, they cover everybody, and as of 2008 spent 5.7% of their GDP on public health care while the United States spent 7.4%. They spent 2.8% on private health care, we spent 8.5%. So Australia has a 2-tier system, spends less than we do on public insurance, spends about half as much as we do overall, and yet covers everybody while we do not. It doesn't make much sense to me.

Good points, and I think if we really dive into what the Insurance companies are extracting from every dollar, we may find an answer. Single payer is the way to go. Obviously.

 

[mrbill]

Quote from Lucrum:

F.A.R. part 91 is what I do, corporate/private jets. Air taxi or "Charter" flying is F.A.R. part 135. Generally, with some exceptions, done by the less experienced over worked and under paid guys.
I've been very fortunate (so far) in my 30 year career to have avoided doing any charter flying.

Great, thanks for the explanation. I'll google some of this, thanks again.

Do you work for a single employer or do you have the ability to free lance?

 

[BSAM]

Quote from kmgilroy89:

I really don't understand why we can't cover everybody with the money that we already spend. Australia lives very similarly to us, they cover everybody, and as of 2008 spent 5.7% of their GDP on public health care while the United States spent 7.4%. They spent 2.8% on private health care, we spent 8.5%. So Australia has a 2-tier system, spends less than we do on public insurance, spends about half as much as we do overall, and yet covers everybody while we do not. It doesn't make much sense to me.

Way too many whores in D.C.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from mrbill:

...Do you work for a single employer or do you have the ability to free lance?

I work for two wealthy individuals who own a 75/25 split of the plane I fly. I do occasionally do some pilot service or "free lance". But being the conscientious employee that I am I always worry about being gone, should one of my guys need to go somewhere. So I self limit how much I do.

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from Free Thinker:

Papa John's Obamacare Price Hike Cheered By Ian's Pizza In Wisconsin

Martin, a part owner of Ian’s Pizza, a pizza shop with four locations in Wisconsin, said his business has offered full heath care coverage to its 50 full-time employees for years, making it all the more difficult to compete with national chains like Papa John's that pay workers low wages without health benefits.

"This may level the playing field for us,” Martin said of the Papa John's price hike. “If they have to pay for benefits, and that pushes their prices up closer to ours, it will justify what we’ve been paying for and what we’ve been fighting to do the past few years.” (Ian's knows a bit about fighting, having fed demonstrators free slices during last year's protests in Madison.)

Like many of the 60 percent of small businesses that pay employees health benefits, Ian's Pizza has struggled to compete with national chains that enter local markets and undercut existing prices. But Obamacare may give local businesses some breathing room as national chains lose the advantage they once wielded through not providing health insurance, according to Jonathan Gruber, a professor of economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Obamacare mandates that businesses with more than 50 workers offer an approved insurance plan or pay a penalty of $2,000 for each full-time worker over 30. “Evidence suggests that when health insurance costs go up, worker wages fall, rather than prices going up,” Gruber said. “If firms are forced to give their workers health insurance, they generally react by paying workers less in wages; they don’t raise the price of goods."

However, in the case of Papa John's, a portion of its employees are already paid at minimum wage, Gruber pointed out. "So you can’t reduce wages for those employees, and the firm may have to increase prices a little bit,” he said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...acare-ians-pizza_n_2133050.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

Yeah man , I'm gonna work for free, while the rules and regs of govt are going to find ways for me NOT to treat you in order to save money.

Oh and were going to be doing more "treatment" without more professionals and prices will be lower and better quality service.

Anybody who thinks the laws of economics can be legislated by decree is a FUCKING FOOL.

 

[jem]

Quote from Free Thinker:

nonsense. republicans strung the dems along for a year. "if you do this we might support it". "take away this provision and we migh vote for it" ect. pretty soon it was watered down to what we see today. pretty much the same thing the romney passed in mass.

in the end the republicans voted in mass against it proving that to them it was all a big game of delay.

more baloney.

you need to do the research into the lobbying.
you need to understand that the industry went to Obama and said this is the bill you have to pass.

it took them that long to get the single payer democrats to cave into accepting their the bill written by Pelosi Reid and the insurance companies who pay them off.

but nevertheless it was a complete lie for you to blame the republicans and say it was the best that could be done because Republicans would not allow it. That law passed without a single republican vote.