Obamacare Fail # 1743 - no insurance til 2015

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nt-be-able-to-buy-health-insurance-until-end/


There is yet another ObamaCare surprise waiting for consumers: from now until the next open enrollment at the end of this year, most people will simply not be able to buy any health insurance at all, even outside the exchanges.

"It's all closed down. You cannot buy a policy that is a qualified policy for the purpose of the ACA (the Affordable Care Act) until next year on January 1," says John DiVito, president of Flexbenefit which has 2,500 brokers.

John Goodman of the National Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas adds, "People are not going to be able to buy individual and family policies, and that's part of ObamaCare. And what makes it so surprising is the whole point of ObamaCare was to encourage people to get insurance, and now the market has been completely closed down for the next seven months."

That means that with few exceptions, tens of millions of people will be locked out of the health insurance market for the rest of this year.

Only about one in four subsidy-eligible people signed up for health insurance," says Robert Laszewski of Health Policy Associates. "That means about 13 million subsidy-eligible people have not yet signed up for health insurance."

Add to that millions more who waited, or thought the policies under ObamaCare were too expensive and decided just to pay the tax penalty.

Although those who failed to buy insurance during the enrollment period could face a government penalty, most will not have to pay that penalty until they do their taxes next year.

“In all likelihood," says Laszewski, "we've only signed up somewhere between one in five and one in seven people who were uninsured prior to the start of ObamaCare."

That means millions are left outside the health insurance market. There is short term insurance, but anyone with a pre-existing condition can be turned down.

The reason sales of health insurance were crammed into short enrollment periods was so insurance companies would have some certainty about who would be in the risk pool, allowing them to set their rates accordingly.

Goodman explains, "they fear that the only people who will try to buy are people who are sick, and they are going to be expensive. So it’s built into the screwy logic of the whole ObamaCare system."

DiVito puts it this way: "So can you imagine that on July 1, an indvidual's walking down the street, they get hit by a car, the ambulance comes and picks them up and inside that ambulance is an insurance salesman selling them a policy. That is exactly what the insurance industry was trying to avoid."

There is one way consumers can still sign up, but only under limited circumstances.

"If you have a qualifying event, a life qualifying event, which means you get married, you get divorced, you get fired from your job" says Goodman. Or you have a child, or lose a spouse or have a change in income.

"It has to be one of those kinds of events,” he adds. “And if you don’t have that, you're not going to be able to buy insurance."

Barring any of those so-called life events, tens of millions will remain uninsured and won't be able to buy health insurance, no matter how hard they try.
 
The point of having these windows is to get people to buy insurance before they get sick or something drastic happens, not after. You don't buy car insurance after you get into an accident!

Conservatives and libertarians have long understood this point, the republican mind found in the Teadiots apparently does not.


Edit: The window is roughly 6 months which is not a big deal. It should be 2-3 years.
 
I can see both sides to this and I don't have an answer. There wil be another surge in sign ups for next year and in a few years this won't be a problem or an issue.
 
...I don't have an answer....
I do, repeal the cluster fuck legislation known as Obamacare.

Unfortunately for Americans, taxpayers in particular, it's not likely to happen.

What will will happen, like virtually all other cluster federal programs. It will be "fixed" over and over and over.
And with every "fix" will come a massive increase in it's expense and complexity.
 
I do, repeal the cluster fuck legislation known as Obamacare.

Unfortunately for Americans, taxpayers in particular, it's not likely to happen.

What will will happen, like virtually all other cluster federal programs. It will be "fixed" over and over and over.
And with every "fix" will come a massive increase in it's expense and complexity.

I hate to say his, as others would be harmed in the interim, but I hope nothing is repealed for now, so at least the dems can lose the senate in November. After that, then yes, the entire bill needs to be shit canned.
 
This won't be repealed as long a democrat is in the white house and won't be repealed in the senate as long as the dems are in the majority. There is a good chance that the dems will block repeal even if they have a slight minority in the senate. Then when you take into account that millions of Americans will be added every year and business and insurance companies structured their policies around the ACA makes it even more unlikely to be repealed as each year passes. Add to that the total lack of a republican alternative the ACA is here to stay for awhile.
 
it could be terminated if the sellout establishment republicans got on board with the those who actually represent america and simply defunded it by presenting a budget piece by piece.

They should simply defund and replace with some sort of temporary coverage option while putting a replacement on the table.



This won't be repealed as long a democrat is in the white house and won't be repealed in the senate as long as the dems are in the majority. There is a good chance that the dems will block repeal even if they have a slight minority in the senate. Then when you take into account that millions of Americans will be added every year and business and insurance companies structured their policies around the ACA makes it even more unlikely to be repealed as each year passes. Add to that the total lack of a republican alternative the ACA is here to stay for awhile.
 
The point of having these windows is to get people to buy insurance before they get sick or something drastic happens, not after. You don't buy car insurance after you get into an accident!

Conservatives and libertarians have long understood this point, the republican mind found in the Teadiots apparently does not.


Edit: The window is roughly 6 months which is not a big deal. It should be 2-3 years.


Uhhh, sorry but with auto insurance other people don't pay for the slackers. If you want auto insurance you pay for it yourself.

Of course maybe Odumbo will next start giving out handouts to pay for auto insurance too.
 
I can see both sides to this and I don't have an answer. There wil be another surge in sign ups for next year and in a few years this won't be a problem or an issue.


Yep, won't be an issue in a few years because the program will be insolvent .... can't subsidize upwards of 90% of the people with an ever declining subset of the taxpayers.
 
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