Obama Will Lose in 2012

cohen2011 · Apr 6, 2011

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Why did you support him so heavily last time then? Buyer's regret setting in?

I don't like him. He is clearly little more than a mouthpiece for Naion of Islam.

Ghost of Cutten · Apr 6, 2011

I'll take the other side of that bet. Yes, Obama is a hardly a great president, but only a minority of political leaders are great. What matter is if he sucks more than the candidate the Republicans put forward. Get back to me once someone credible steps up to the plate. Until then, Dems will walk the 2012 presidency, only risk is if Obama dies somehow, or a GOP star comes out of nowhere in the next 12 months.

IMO Dems are a buy on intrade even at 62%.

olias · Apr 6, 2011

Quote from Ghost of Cutten:

I'll take the other side of that bet.

I'm with you. It's early, but I'm thinking Obama wins pretty easily.

I think he's doing a pretty damn good job by the way. I've never been a Democrat and I didn't vote for him.

Mercor · Apr 6, 2011

Quote from cohen2011:

We, the patriotic American Jewish lobby, will ensure the defeat of Obama HUSEIN Barack.

2008 Jewish Vote for Obama Exceeds All Expectations

November 5, 2008

When the general election campaign began in June of this year the consensus opinion among political pundits was that Barack Obama was going to underperform among Jewish voters. In the four presidential elections between 1992 and 2008 the Democratic presidential nominee averaged 79%.
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Looks like you need to do a little work....

Lucrum · Apr 6, 2011

Quote from Ghost of Cutten:

I'll take the other side of that bet. Yes, Obama is a hardly a great president, but only a minority of political leaders are great. What matter is if he sucks more than the candidate the Republicans put forward. Get back to me once someone credible steps up to the plate. Until then, Dems will walk the 2012 presidency, only risk is if Obama dies somehow, or a GOP star comes out of nowhere in the next 12 months.

IMO Dems are a buy on intrade even at 62%.

The thought of another 4 years of this incompetent buffoon is sickening to me, BUT practical objectivity dictates one must consider the possibility if not the probability that you're right.

bugscoe · Apr 6, 2011

Quote from Ghost of Cutten:

I'll take the other side of that bet. Yes, Obama is a hardly a great president, but only a minority of political leaders are great. What matter is if he sucks more than the candidate the Republicans put forward. Get back to me once someone credible steps up to the plate. Until then, Dems will walk the 2012 presidency, only risk is if Obama dies somehow, or a GOP star comes out of nowhere in the next 12 months.

IMO Dems are a buy on intrade even at 62%.

This assumes that all of the independents who got him elected are suddenly going to say, "awe fuck it, let's do it all over again".

Look at how all the midterms went on ALL levels of government- the dems got their asses handed to them. There is a reason for this that goes beyond a pretty face.

Obama is facing much of the same backlash Bush did in 2008.

Clubber Lang · Apr 6, 2011

Quote from olias:

I think he's doing a pretty damn good job by the way. I've never been a Democrat and I didn't vote for him.

Curious- Can you state what are the things that you think he's done well so far? Thanks.

pspr · Apr 6, 2011

Quote from olias:

.....I've always been a Democrat and I voted for him.

You had an error in your last sentence but I fixed it for you.

TGregg · Apr 6, 2011

Quote from Scataphagos:

Walter Williams...

The man's pretty bright and writes a nice bit. But when he talks, when he's talkin', when his lips are moving and when he's saying something, that is, when he's talkin then sometimes, when he's talkin, he just can't quite come to the point.

maxpi · Apr 6, 2011

Quote from nutmeg:

I think this guy nailed it.

President Obama has several key flaws which have doomed his presidency.

1. His leadership style is one of consensus and compromise. This works OK in a caretaker setting in which there are no crises and no demands for bold changes of course. Unfortunately, this era is defined by structural crises, and a leadership based on gaining consensus and compromise is basically a rudderless one in this environment.
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--well, yeah, he's a Liberal, you have to give him a pass, they don't have absolute values, c'mon...
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2. He does not understand economics or finance, nor is he secure about making decisions on financial topics. As a result he deferred to the "experts," who just happened to be Wall Street cronies and insiders who easily swayed the President with their hobgoblin stories of financial meltdown and ruin if we didn't "save the banking sector from losses."
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--well, yeah, he's a Liberal, they don't do math and all that hard shit... cut the guy some slack!!
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3. His grasp of history is poor. The same can be said of most presidents, but Obama failed to grasp the historic opportunity to set a new sustainable course for the nation's banking and financial sectors, and thus for its economy. He opted instead to save and protect the corrupt and embezzlement-based banking sector from losses, and he continues to do so with "extend and pretend" policies.
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--shit yes, George Soros has him in the WH so he can phone out all the moves ahead of time, it's just biz as usual, get over it...
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In a similar fashion, he has allowed the National Security State and the Global Empire to expand without any limitations.
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--He's a Liberal, you don't expect HIM to spoil the party now do you?
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4. He has no visible core beliefs beyond a vague sense that the Federal government and its extension, the American Empire, are forces for good. His policies can be boiled down to: support and expand the Savior State and its many fiefdoms, support and expand the Global Empire and National Security State, and allow the banking system and its Power Elites to set the agenda and control the oversight agencies and institutions.
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--you know, those people with absolute right and wrong type thinking just have a stick up their ass, everybody knows that...
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http://www.oftwominds.com/blogapril11/Obama-loses-2012-4-11.html