Obama wants 4 trillion dollar deficit reduction deal,republicans want 2

[Ricter]

Quote from Eight:

I dunno, the Democratic Party cannot survive without the 90-95% Black Vote. That skews what they do so incredibly much that they can't be rational about spending and taxation. ...

That's just about the perfect sentence to describe the republican party, too. "The Republican Party cannot survive without the 1%'rs rentier support. That skews what they do so incredibly much that they can't be rational about spending and taxation."

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from Eight:

I dunno, the Democratic Party cannot survive without the 90-95% Black Vote. That skews what they do so incredibly much that they can't be rational about spending and taxation.

Blacks are social conservatives largely. When they came out to vote for Obama they also voted for Prop 8 in California and they tipped the balance away from Gay Marriage... so Democrats see that they have these socially conservative people herded into these inner city reservations, they can't get jobs because the far Left has lawyered up and attacked the employers to the point where employers can't take the horrible R/R ratio of hiring a black worker. Blacks have to have public sector jobs [they can't sue] or welfare. So the arguments from the Democrats to sway Black votes have to be about welfare and more government jobs and never about social issues... from that standpoint your argument makes perfectly good sense!! Why not destroy the country to preserve those inner city reservations!!

I agree the democratic party needs 90 % of the black vote to survive and they are socially conservative.I support same sex marriage because I think its discrimination but every one of my black friends and associates are against it

You are mistaken about blacks not being able to work in the private sector,most blacks work in the private sector

 

[bugscoe]

Quote from Ricter:

That's just about the perfect sentence to describe the republican party, too. "The Republican Party cannot survive without the 1%'rs rentier support. That skews what they do so incredibly much that they can't be rational about spending and taxation."

The republicans can't survive period with just the 1%'rs votes.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from bugscoe:

The republicans can't survive period with just the 1%'rs votes.

That's why I said "support".

 

[Trader666]

What a disingenuous thread title.

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Obama wants 4 trillion dollar deficit reduction deal,republicans want 2 trillion dollar deal

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

We have a revenue and spending problem.

No, just a spending problem.

The only time you have a revenue problem is when you have no revenue. Any other time you simply live within your means or IOW don't spend more than your revenue.

Congress/BO could balance the budget tomorrow, if they wanted to/had the back bone/political fortitude to do so.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from bugscoe:

I would agree that there is no conservative party in the USA. We have a leftist party and a slightly less leftist party.

Correct and all the more argument to vote out all career <s>politicians</s> criminals REGARDLESS of party and or invoke congressional term limits. The POTUS is limited to two terms why not congressmen?

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Trader666:
What a disingenuous thread title.

Just more of his fanatical BS hooray for dems poo poo on repubs.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

You are mistaken about blacks not being able to work in the private sector,most blacks work in the private sector

Not in downtown Atlanta, go to the courthouse and it's 90% + blacks.

 

[bugscoe]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

I despise Obama for even putting SS and medicare on the table but am glad he has once again able to show that low taxes for the rich are the only thing republicans care about

But you love Ron Paul for doing it?

Ron Paul: My goal would be to get the federal government out of the entitlement business. It will be a tragedy if we continue to do what we do, because we won’t be able to finance them. If you look at Medicare and Social Secruity and Medicaid, they don’t have the money. What I propose is a transitional period. Let young people get out. Take care of the people who have become so dependent on the government. Work our way out of it. Stop spending this money running a world empire and cut some of the budget that won’t hit the poor.

I believe very sincerely that you could do this. If you change the foreign policy, you could save hundreds of billions of dollars rather quickly. You could get rid of your departments. What are we doing running the Department of Agriculture to the tune of billions of dollars? The Department of Energy, the Department of Education – we just don’t need those things. You could address that and still not have to be seen as attacking health-care for children–even though my goal would be to make the Constitution strong enough and efficient enough that you could wean people off and let young people opt out of this soon and assume responsibility for themselves.