Obama voted second worst president of all time.

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from Max E. Pad:

Obama should be proud of himself, atleast the 4 years he has spent railing away against Bush, and blaming everyone else for his mistakes hasnt been a complete waste, Bush is the only president voters think is worse than him.....

The thing about this poll that is kind of scary is that 4% of people rated Bush in the top 2 presidents ever, and 11% of people voted Obama in the top 2 presidents ever..... The idiots who voted for that should lose their right to vote.....




According to a Newsweek/Daily Beast poll of likely voters, Barack Obama now rates behind Jimmy Carter in the pantheon of great presidents. The poll asked likely voters to list the two best and the two worst presidents the history of the United States. Here are the tallies, based on net results:

33. (tie) Andrew Johnson, -2 points (0 percent place in top-2, 2 percent place in bottom-2)
33. (tie) Warren G. Harding, -2 points (0 percent place in top-2, 2 percent place in bottom-2)
33. (tie) Calvin Coolidge, -2 points (0 percent place in top-2, 2 percent place in bottom-2)
36. (tie) Lyndon B. Johnson, -3 points (1 percent place in top-2, 4 percent place in bottom-2)
36. (tie) Gerald Ford, -3 points (1 percent place in top-2, 4 percent place in bottom-2)
38. Herbert Hoover, -4 points (0 percent place in top-2, 4 percent place in bottom-2)
39. George H.W. Bush, -9 points (4 percent place in top-2, 13 percent place in bottom-2)
40. Jimmy Carter, -20 points (5 percent place in top-2, 25 percent place in bottom-2)
41. Richard Nixon, -24 points (2 percent place in top-2, 26 percent place in bottom-2)
42. Barack Obama, -25 points (11 percent place in top-2, 36 percent place in bottom-2)
43. George W. Bush, -39 points (4 percent place in top-2, 43 percent place in bottom-2)

The average amercan voter is stupid.Watch those comedy show skits where the host ask them political questions and you can see how stupid they are.I've seen one where most didn't even know who the vice president was .Very telling that they dont know who James Buchanan is or include him among the worse presidents ever



Gotta give them some credit though,they know Obama and Carter are better then Bush

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

Why should we trust anything you say, then? You don't even try to appear objective or scientific in the least way.

You don't trust people when they ARE scientific or objective, so why do you pretend otherwise?

 

[OccupyThis]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

The average amercan voter is stupid.Watch those comedy show skits where the host ask them political questions and you can see how stupid they are.I've seen one where most didn't even know who the vice president was .Very telling that they dont know who James Buchanan is or include him among the worse presidents ever



Gotta give them some credit though,they know Obama and Carter are better then Bush

Is this why liberals always quote Jon Stewart and Bill Mahr?

 

[hughb]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

The average amercan voter is stupid.Watch those comedy show skits where the host ask them political questions and you can see how stupid they are.I've seen one where most didn't even know who the vice president was .Very telling that they dont know who James Buchanan is or include him among the worse presidents ever



Gotta give them some credit though,they know Obama and Carter are better then Bush

Buchanan makes the list of worst presidents from time to time, usually because of his acquiescence to the slave trade. However, he knew the constitution and he knew he couldn't stop states from seceding if they chose to do so. I would never include Buchanan on a list of worst presidents ever.

 

[Brass]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

You don't trust people when they ARE scientific or objective, so why do you pretend otherwise?

Oh, look. There's Tsing "debating" again. Oh, how he loves a good debate...

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from hughb:

Buchanan makes the list of worst presidents from time to time, usually because of his acquiescence to the slave trade. However, he knew the constitution and he knew he couldn't stop states from seceding if they chose to do so. I would never include Buchanan on a list of worst presidents ever.

States cannot secede and Buchanan makes the list of worst presidents on every credible list

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Yannis:

Hey, this is my opinion, take it or leave it. Newsweek pretends they are a news outfit, but they just push their opinion. I'm not in the news business, I'm a conservative private citizen. So are you on the liberal side. I don't put any credence to what you say from an objective point of view, but, I'm interested in your opinion, that's all.

It's not Newsweek's opinion, it's a poll. I'll admit that you are attacking a source that is reporting news you like to hear, but you're still attacking the messenger. Imo the attack should be on the poll, e.g. is it valid?

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

You don't trust people when they ARE scientific or objective, so why do you pretend otherwise?

At a certain level of "fringeness", like your sources, very few are going to spend any time or effort analyzing the assertions. Until they do you will have to suffer like Copernicus for a couple of centuries.

 

[AK Forty Seven]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39283.html



Professors rank President Obama 15th best president




A new poll of leading presidential scholars ranks Barack Obama as the 15th best president of the United States, just below Bill Clinton but ahead of Ronald Reagan.

The Siena College poll, which surveyed 238 presidential scholars at U.S. colleges and universities, asked scholars to rate the nation’s 43 chief executives on 20 attributes ranging from legislative accomplishments to integrity and imagination.

In the overall ranking, Obama rated two places below Clinton, who was 13th best, and three better than Reagan, who is ranked as the 18th best.

Franklin D. Roosevelt again earned the top spot, as he has every time since the poll was first conducted in 1982. He and the Mount Rushmore presidents — Teddy Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson — have consistently been the top five presidents in the poll’s findings.

Obama’s 15th ranking is slightly higher than other presidents who have taken office since the poll started nearly 30 years ago. Most start out at about number 20, said Siena statistics professor and poll director Douglas Lonnstrom.

“[Obama’s] doing a little better, but he’s generally in the same ballpark,” he said.

While he ranked high on traits like imagination (6th), communication ability (7th) and intelligence (8th), Obama rated poorly ratings on background (32nd), which was composed of traits like family, education and experience.

Lonnstrom said the main factor that gives a president a top-five or top-10 ranking is his accomplishments — and an all-around high ranking in most categories.

FDR, for example, ranks in the top 10 for every category except integrity, he said.

“The experts really are looking for consistency, a president who is looking good across most of these categories,” he said.

Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, was ranked at number 23 in 2002 — the last time Siena’s presidential expert poll was conducted — but has since dropped to number 39, qualifying him as one of the five worst presidents. Bush came in at number 42 — second to last — on issues such as handling the U.S. economy, foreign policy accomplishments and intelligence. (Warren G. Harding was rated the least intelligent president).

Bush joins Harding, Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan and Franklin Pierce, all of whom have consistently ranked as the worst presidents since the poll started, in the bottom five.

 

[Max E.]

This ranking is meaningless, the one i posted was a poll based on what all the citizens of america think, what you just posted is the opinion of a bunch of liberal professors engaged in a circle jerk.... Jimmy Carter is ranked 25th on this poll that tellls you about all you need to know....

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39283.html



Professors rank President Obama 15th best president




A new poll of leading presidential scholars ranks Barack Obama as the 15th best president of the United States, just below Bill Clinton but ahead of Ronald Reagan.

The Siena College poll, which surveyed 238 presidential scholars at U.S. colleges and universities, asked scholars to rate the nation’s 43 chief executives on 20 attributes ranging from legislative accomplishments to integrity and imagination.

In the overall ranking, Obama rated two places below Clinton, who was 13th best, and three better than Reagan, who is ranked as the 18th best.

Franklin D. Roosevelt again earned the top spot, as he has every time since the poll was first conducted in 1982. He and the Mount Rushmore presidents — Teddy Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson — have consistently been the top five presidents in the poll’s findings.

Obama’s 15th ranking is slightly higher than other presidents who have taken office since the poll started nearly 30 years ago. Most start out at about number 20, said Siena statistics professor and poll director Douglas Lonnstrom.

“[Obama’s] doing a little better, but he’s generally in the same ballpark,” he said.

While he ranked high on traits like imagination (6th), communication ability (7th) and intelligence (8th), Obama rated poorly ratings on background (32nd), which was composed of traits like family, education and experience.

Lonnstrom said the main factor that gives a president a top-five or top-10 ranking is his accomplishments — and an all-around high ranking in most categories.

FDR, for example, ranks in the top 10 for every category except integrity, he said.

“The experts really are looking for consistency, a president who is looking good across most of these categories,” he said.

Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, was ranked at number 23 in 2002 — the last time Siena’s presidential expert poll was conducted — but has since dropped to number 39, qualifying him as one of the five worst presidents. Bush came in at number 42 — second to last — on issues such as handling the U.S. economy, foreign policy accomplishments and intelligence. (Warren G. Harding was rated the least intelligent president).

Bush joins Harding, Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan and Franklin Pierce, all of whom have consistently ranked as the worst presidents since the poll started, in the bottom five.