Obama to unilaterally disarm the United States

Quote from 377OHMS:

Well, there goes our nuclear deterrent:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NUCLEAR_WEAPONS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The U.S. already is on track to reduce to 1,550 deployed strategic nuclear warheads by 2018, as required by New START. As of last Sept. 1, the United States had 1,790 warheads and Russia had 1,566, according to treaty-mandated reports by each. The treaty does not bar either country from cutting below 1,550 on their own.


That's far too low already, imo. That's only ~220 missiles with 8 mirvs. Maybe 8 loaded SSBN's? From a strategic standpoint, it's not enough. The US stockpile isn't under threat from internal diversion or a rouge launch, like the Soviets. A more reasonable number would be 3-5K warheads, per side. Also, the missile shield should be pursued to thwart a rouge State, even to include Russia, to avert another arms race. Did Obama axe the missile shield? Not much talk, but space demilitarization treaties are bs. Space has been the frontier for weaponry, since the 70's. Satellite killers and broad/focused EMP weapons render the most sophisticated militaries back to the industrial age, in minutes. Including our own. The US has all this stuff already, and a lot more. But we're not told about it. It's possible America and the Soviets have technologies that make nukes obsolete. Hence the global push to dearm the planet, via START and NPT. This retains Western and Russian dominance with technologies that aren't covered, while boxing everyone else in to inferior technologies that are covered by treaty or "persuasion".
 
Quote from achilles28:

That's far too low already, imo. That's only ~220 missiles with 8 mirvs. Maybe 8 loaded SSBN's? From a strategic standpoint, it's not enough. The US stockpile isn't under threat from internal diversion or a rouge launch, like the Soviets. A more reasonable number would be 3-5K warheads, per side. Also, the missile shield should be pursued to thwart a rouge State, even to include Russia, to avert another arms race. Did Obama axe the missile shield? Not much talk, but space demilitarization treaties are bs. Space has been the frontier for weaponry, since the 70's. Satellite killers and broad/focused EMP weapons render the most sophisticated militaries back to the industrial age, in minutes. Including our own. The US has all this stuff already, and a lot more. But we're not told about it. It's possible America and the Soviets have technologies that make nukes obsolete. Hence the global push to dearm the planet, via START and NPT. This retains Western and Russian dominance with technologies that aren't covered, while boxing everyone else in to inferior technologies that are covered by treaty or "persuasion".


Good post...quick, go ask 10 of your friends what an EMP is:D
 
Quote from achilles28:

That's far too low already, imo. That's only ~220 missiles with 8 mirvs. Maybe 8 loaded SSBN's? From a strategic standpoint, it's not enough. The US stockpile isn't under threat from internal diversion or a rouge launch, like the Soviets. A more reasonable number would be 3-5K warheads, per side. Also, the missile shield should be pursued to thwart a rouge State, even to include Russia, to avert another arms race. Did Obama axe the missile shield? Not much talk, but space demilitarization treaties are bs. Space has been the frontier for weaponry, since the 70's. Satellite killers and broad/focused EMP weapons render the most sophisticated militaries back to the industrial age, in minutes. Including our own. The US has all this stuff already, and a lot more. But we're not told about it. It's possible America and the Soviets have technologies that make nukes obsolete. Hence the global push to dearm the planet, via START and NPT. This retains Western and Russian dominance with technologies that aren't covered, while boxing everyone else in to inferior technologies that are covered by treaty or "persuasion".
You do realize that the missile defense shield is viewed by others as a potentially offensive system which undermines MAD?
 
Quote from Trader666:

...Show me where I claimed to have "the right numerical answer"...
You seem to know specifically which numbers are insufficient. Therefore, your apparent knowledge encompasses the numerical.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

+1 to Maxi. I take back anything I may have said about him. It's getting so hard to pigeon-hole people these days. Now I'm confused..I need a nap.

In truth, we are living in interesting times. A curse, in some cultures.

Something is going to happen to us. Which means something is going to happen to the world. Most of the folks are partisan on here, but every now and again, they tip their hand, and the epiphany occurs that we all know something is going down, we just don't know what.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Slow down brASS, I'm taking notes from the master on how to offer intellectual debate.
Quote from Trader666:

...Fuck off loser.
See, Lucrum? Those are the basics of debating, Right-style.
 
Quote from Brass:

See, Lucrum? Those are the basics of debating, Right-style.

Yeah, Lucrum has not had a cogent thought in a long time. I think he is struggling with the gay thing. He has not gone 24 hours without some homosexual reference. It obsesses him. I have not done it, but someone might want to do a search on how many of his posts reference same sex relations. It has got to be well over 7 or 8 to 1

This fellow is troubled, Im telling ya.
 
Quote from Ricter:

You do realize that the missile defense shield is viewed by others as a potentially offensive system which undermines MAD?

Not if it includes Russia and China. I think the whole purpose of the missile shield was to thwart a rouge launch. Besides, weapons R&D didn't stop at nukes. Both superpowers continued development, well past the sixties, into 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th generation technologies. The only difference is, the public wasn't informed. That's why we don't see any push to cover them under treaty...nobody knows about it, and the military sure as shit aren't going to tie their arms behind their back. So in truth, the ARM's race never stopped. Just continued covertly, with different technologies. I know everyone here is uber-pragmatic, but local US news stations covered *many* UFO sitings, in the past few years. This is most likely exotic military technology taken on joy-rides. Of course, these craft aren't propelled by diesel engines, which opens another can of worms as to why fusion/anti-gravity propulsion systems haven't been commercialized to yield Free Energy and usher in a new economic golden age. But that's because the common man/free market economy is a threat to the military-industrial-complex that's reigned over this Country since Eisenhower's America. They want us in the dark. Easier to control us. Tail wagging the dog.
 
Actually from what i have seen most people's political views are pretty consistent on this site....

Quote from RCG Trader:

but every now and again, they tip their hand, and the epiphany occurs that we all know something is going down, we just don't know what.
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

Good post...quick, go ask 10 of your friends what an EMP is:D

haha . easy

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