Obama thinks he is the 4th best president ever, In other News Rome continues to burn

Quote from Veyron 16.4:

Prove it! That's Republican speak for WE HAVE NO DAMN IDEAS OF OUR OWN! Therefore, we are going to use assumptive, non-existent declarations about things that are not true, that we cannot prove, that we have no evidence for, that we cannot back-up and that we have absolutely no way of documenting.

Now, since you made the claim that Obama has done nothing, prove it. Where is your evidence, other than that which you obtained from listening to Rush "Oxycontin" Limbaugh, or what you get spammed with from Faux News each and every day, for the past 3 years.

Give a clear, well written, focused, data filled, factual example of WHERE this President has failed the American People.

Then, give an equally clear, well written, data filled and factual example of what this President did, that YOU (had you been President elect in 2008) would have done differently. Be precisely, be crystal clear and DO NOT DARE equivocate with me on this issue.

I am sick and tired of hearing about how this President, having had the WORLD's economic problems dumped in his lap by Right Wing Neconservative Hacks, has somehow "failed" the American People.

I want some damn examples - so I can debate them with you: Point by Point. And, you darn well better be factual, or I will expose your false rhetoric for what it is: False Rhetoric.

Newt Gingrich, is FAMOUS (probably more than George Will) for generating a false premise and then closing on that premise as though he's just said something profound about his political opponent. That kind of Hackery, will not work here. So, you better bring some facts to the debate, or your arguments will get exposed as being False.




And, Neoconservatives need to get used to the idea of taking personal responsibility for bad decisions and flawed policies that create crises in both foreign policy and domestic economic policy. When will Republicans EVER take responsibility for the mess that they overwhelmingly helped to create? When will that day come?



Bull! The conditions around the entire GLOBE (Hello!) were causes specifically by the incompetent American Voters who put a Neocon Puppet into the White House, in 2000. The conditions around the entire world today, were brought about through in very large degree, to the absolute and total neglect of the Republican Party to LEAD on matters of domestic economic agenda, here in the United States.

The effect of the systemic problems were seen in 2008, but their cause was presided over from 2000 through 2008, which was the period when Republicans were in charge and failing to lead in the prevention of what is now a systemic Global Crisis. No amount of re-writing history is going to change those facts.

The Republican Congress did nothing to prevent it. The Republican President did nothing to prevent it. In fact, they all contributed in the vast majority, to exacerbating the problem, by adding Trillions more to the national debt, with unnecessary wars that were initiated on impeachable lies told to the American People and the United States Congress.

The economic crisis created by the excessive use of BOTH debt and debt equity instruments that were traded for valuations that in no way resembled their actual worth, coupled to the absolute failure of the United States Congress (Republican lead) to properly adhere to its mandate to adequately regulate Credit Reporting Agencies, who were in the business of LYING to the world about what they KNEW was an absolute toxic wasteland of bad debt instruments being proliferated around the world; are the principle reasons WHY we are in the condition that we are in today.

There is absolutely nothing that this President, or any President, subsequent to the implosion in 2008, would have been able to do to prevent the dam from bursting. A dam that had been under pressure since the dismantling of Glass-Steagal, circa 1933.

In the midst of all that, this current President's actions thwarted what most rational, sane, non-partisan economists all agree would have been Economic Armageddon in the United States in terms of super high double digit unemployment and most likely the start of the Greatest Depression the United States of America had ever known.



And, what did we get from a Texas Politician?

- Hundreds of thousand of innocent Men, Women and Children, dead for absolutely no reason other than the lies told by a Texas Politician and his cronies.

- Trillions of dollars added to the national debt, extending both debt and deficit with no means of future revenue recovery, all predicated on lies, deceit, distortion and official rumors of WMD that never existed to anywhere near the degree that was claimed.

- Billions in Iraqi PSA Oil Contracts, flowing in non-competitive processes that do not directly benefit the Iraqi People, to people who were either former or current executives of U.S./British oil industry and who were appointed by the Bush 43 Administration to head the initial Iraqi Oil Counsel and who padded the entire PSA award process and skewed it to their favor, before the official Iraqi Government was ever put into place.

- A U.S. economic meltdown unseen prior to, or before the Great Depression of the early 30's.

All brought to you by an AWOL politician from Texas. One that YOU supported, no doubt.




Then you should have no problem in demonstrating exactly where the President has been shallow, unintelligent, corrupt and ineffective, should you?




Jimmy Carter, was one of the most moral Presidents the United States of America, has ever been gifted enough to have as Commander in Chief. The work you do when you leave the White House, speaks volumes about your character. What have the Bush's done since leaving office?

Furthermore, Carter, was hit by OPEC. It was OPEC who causes the restrictions crude that in turn caused the prices at the pump to soar during Carter's term in office. Moreover, it was not Carter, who sparked the Iran hostage crisis, but is was Carter's initial actions that made it possible for Reagan, upon entering office, to claim the victory for getting the hostages released.

More to the point, it was the 1953/54 coup attempt through Project T/P Ajax, a covert operation conducted by both British and U.S. intelligence against Mohammad Mosaddegh, a very well respected Iranian Prime Minister at the time, that the Iranian People never forgot. And, when they had enough of the Puppet Regime put in place by the United States, they revolted against the U.S. and took hostages. This in no way had anything to do with the leadership of President Carter, at the time.

Yet, another example of how intellectual dishonest Republicans, if given the chance, will turn history upside down and inside out, to prove a FALSE claim that has no merit and no hope of ever being true.

If you need another history lesson, post another non-sequitur lie again. I'll educate you.




It is safe to say that you are like most Republicans in denial. You live in a world of New Gingrich, fantasy - where history, even contemporary history, can be turned around and stood up on its ear in broad daylight, whilst actually believing that intelligent people are unable to distinguish a lie from the truth.

The worst President in the modern era, is a fantasy in the minds of prejudicial Republicans, who cannot stand the sight of a Black Dude in the White House.

THAT is the bottom line resentment that ALWAYS comes from the Right regarding this man. The fact that you can look at his record as President, know the Mission Impossible that task that he has to correct a ship with overwhelming momentum to the downside economically, and STILL find it in your heart to hold Racial Animosity towards this guy, is abundantly distasteful on every level imaginable!

Wake Up! There is absolutely no other rational explanation for the wildly inaccurate labels that the unpatriotic class in this country loves to pin on the chest of this man - merely because he's part African American and part European American.

President Obama, has demonstrated himself as being one of the most capable Presidents that this country has seen in years. The fact that Republicans hatched a Denial of Service Attack on the President from day one, just so they could sit back and label him: Ineffective, is one of the most transparent of all the ridiculous tactics they have put forth thus far.

It is crystal clear: Just say no = Label the President ineffective at election time.

Well that might play with the dogmatic base in the Republican Party, but such non-intelligent methods won't play well with Independent Voters in 2012. Keep that in mind.

Great Post !!!!!!
 
Quote from Veyron 16.4:

Racial Animosity

lol, that is quite a diatribe.

Barrack Obama has failed because of his policies and indoctrination, not because of his pigmentation.

The cries of racism are already being tuned out by most of America. The word is going to be so overused in 2012 that it will not carry the same meaning any longer.

You need to get over George Bush and Dick Cheney. You leftists seem unable to get past your Bush Derangement Syndrome, perhaps it is permanent. We could use a man like Dick Cheney in leadership right now, Rumsfeld as well.
 
Quote from Veyron 16.4:

...who cannot stand the sight of a Black Dude in the White House.

...President Obama, has demonstrated himself as being one of the most capable Presidents that this country has seen in years....
Can you hear it?





It's the sound of your credibility flushing down the toilet.
 
Quote from Veyron 16.4:

Prove it! That's Republican speak for WE HAVE NO DAMN IDEAS OF OUR OWN! Therefore, we are going to use assumptive, non-existent declarations about things that are not true, that we cannot prove, that we have no evidence for, that we cannot back-up and that we have absolutely no way of documenting........................................................................................................................................... ad nausium.


Why is it today President Obama isn't to blame..... it's the no nothing congress, but in the past Republican Presidents are to blame even though they had Democratically controlled House and Senates?

I don't have the time to start with the increased failed stimulus packages, illegal auto bailouts, multitudes of unconstitutional czar appointments, Crap and Trade, Obamacare ect. ect.... and mostly a lack of unifying leadership that this country desperately needs.

We face the same financial problems being seen in Europe, exception we are just a year or two behind them with a bigger deficit......... knowing that we are going in the exact opposite of what needs to be done to head off a complete meltdown.

You want to tax the rich, tax the rich, tax the rich.... when everyone with half a brain and a calculator or pencil and paper can easily figure the higher collected taxes mean absolutely nothing to the bottom line. But it's waived around as a rallying flag in an attempt to divided this country, which is what our President has accomplished, a country divided when his platform was to unite.

Save your debate, the people will decide next November. 2010 was just the start.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

George Bush isn't running for president.

Who is running for President as a Republican:

- A delusional candidate who thinks that Obama is a Muslim?

- A delusional candidate whose wife finds out that he's been given financial aid to another woman, only after the other woman tells all?

- A delusional candidate who did not know that China, already had nuclear weapons?

- A delusional candidate who thought that there were only eight (8) supreme court justices?

- A delusional candidate who preaches morality, while having been married exactly HOW many times, and where some of those marriages overlapped each other! (that polygamy in most States)

- A delusional candidate who rails against his own Health Care plan, rejoices in presiding as governor over a State whose economy he left in shambles and play Monday Morning Quarterback on Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, better than Joe Montana himself, during his prime when had Jerry Rice on one end and Dwight Clark on the other?

- A delusional candidate who can't seem to remember the Contract he put out On America and the absolute miserable record that such a plan had in the United States Congress for bi-partisan cooperation on any meaningful level?

Give me a break! You call these people Presidential Candidates? I tune into the debates just to get a chuckle or two, but that's about it.

I can't wait for the real debates to get underway, as President Obama, dismantles the hollow rhetoric that these people have been spewing for a couple of years now. By the time President Obama, is done with the Republican candidate in the debates, it will be even more crystal clear than it already is, precisely WHY people voted for him in the first place, back in 2004.


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Obama is seeking reelection based on zero accomplishments during his first term. He has to run on his record now not the record of his predecessor. There is no escaping it.

Getting Health Care passed through Congress, when other Presidents have tried but always failed to accomplish, is something that only a die hard Republican would label as unaccomplished.

Getting Osama Bin Laden, when the previous Administration failed to do so, even with the majority of our Army, Navy, Airforce and Marine Corp deployed for that purpose, is only something that a really unwise Republican faithful would ever dream up.

Bringing a responsible end to the U.S. war in Iraq, after being told years ago by the previous Administration "Mission Accomplished," is only something that a staunch Republican with blinders on would even think to imagine as being of zero accomplishment.

Spearheading the economic recovery act, to prevent super high double digit unemployment and certain economic depression with far greater potential to damage the well being of the average American family, is only something that a hyper-partisan Republican would ever conclude as having no merit.

Initiating regulatory changes in our nation's financial industry, to try and prevent another 2008 from occurring, while at the same time, preventing key industry pillars of our national economy from imploding on themselves and getting some ROI for the American Tax Payer in the process, to the tune of billions of dollars in interest payments returned to the United States Treasury from banks that were issued troubled asset relief funds, is likewise, something that only careless and double-minded Republicans - who voted for TARP I and TARP II, would even dare to consider, unaccomplished.

Having the moral fortitude to do the right thing with respect to Afghanistan, by helping to stand-up Afghan Security Forces, to the point of being able to defend their own country from the radical sets of Islam, and finally fulfill a decades old promise to the Afghan People, that was utterly ignored by the Reagan Administration during the 1980's after the Soviet/Afghan war, when the United States thought that it would get a southern flowing pipeline into the Mediterranean sea, is something that should make all Republican proud; yet somehow, you find that: unaccomplished.

Wake up and educate yourself, please.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Arguably the only job he's really qualified to do.


Somebody has to clean-up after nasty Neoconservative make a mess around the world. Cleaning-up such a mess is a very honorable role.
 
Since you seem to have gotten mixed up in your blame bush apologise for Obama speech, the repeal of glass steagall which was the number one cause of the housing crisis happened under Clinton.

Also since you are such a genius why dont you explain to us what the democrats would have done differently if they had control in 2000-2008?? Do you really think the party that was the one who was pushing the idea of home ownership for low income people was going to put a stop to it when it was going on?? Even that shit head Bush saw that there was a problem with fannie and freddie, but when he tried to do something about it people like Barney Frank said "nothing to see folks, move along" and then the democrats went into their tyical class warfare bullshit about how mean republcans are for not wanting to see low income people own homes.

Yhe fact that you would try to pin the blame for the housing crisis solely on Bush Shows yoiu are a hopelessly partisan lefty. Both sides were to blame, and while you go on cheerleading for losers like Obbama, both republicans and democrats alike just continue to make this country worse and worse.

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There is absolutely nothing that this President, or any President, subsequent to the implosion in 2008, would have been able to do to prevent the dam from bursting. A dam that had been under pressure since the dismantling of Glass-Steagal, circa 1933.

 
Quote from Veyron 16.4:

Somebody has to clean-up after nasty Neoconservative make a mess around the world. Cleaning-up such a mess is a very honorable role.
:D

You and IQ 47 really should get a room. You can compare pro democrap rhetoric and shares his full size anatomically correct Obama doll.
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Facts show Obama is much better at killing Taliban and Al Qaeda fighters

No doubt, indeed. That record should make all Republican stand up and take notice. If the one who created the term "war on terror" was less effective, than the Janitor In Chief, then what on earth does that say about former Administration!

All the Bush Administration ever did was walk into the cafeteria, and start shooting up the place. Just like Eric Harris and Dyland Klebold. Absolutely, zero difference.

All of these events (911/Iraq/Afghanistan) were plotted, planned and executed by Madmen, who spewed bullets for PSA contracts and to satisfy family debts.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

:D

You and IQ 47 really should get a room. You can compare pro democrap rhetoric and shares his full size anatomically correct Obama doll.


I knew it wouldn't be long before you started with the homosexual posts.Just shows you lost the debate and cant stop thinking about male homosexuality :)
 
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