Obama pays price for thinking Bush was a dunce

[der_kommissar]

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Before Obama addressed the spill his approval ratings were 45-46 %

After addressing the issue his approval ratings has been 48-50 %

LOL !!!


Only dumbass Republicans can think this is Obamas fault.Maybe if Obama had advance notice like Bush did with Katrina and 9-11

LOL? Clearly, you are delirious. You've fallen into the very same trap of your perceived enemies who defended Bush into the abyss, only you're so trapped in your failed idealogy, you cannot even see it.

If 18 months ago, on the date of Obama's iinauguration, someone had told a sock puppet such as yourself that you would be pelting your enemies with "wow Obama's ratings improved from 45-48%", I'm sure it would even make your sorry ass blush.

Kind of sad when you realize the "people of color" part of the equation is probably 90% approval no matter what the guy does.

 

[Ivanovich]

Quote from Yannis:

Funny how so many "smart" people have no problem putting hard evidence aside and claim that their own, biased, personal feelings and desires are good enough to be presented as objective proof of something or other...

What do we know for sure about W?
1. Very well educated
2. Self made multimillionnaire by his mid 30s
3. Was elected governor of Texas against the democratic establishment - twice
4. Was elected President of the USA twice, beating "smart" elitists like Gore and Kerry
5. Took the country out of the financial mess left by Clinton (which culminated in the stock market crash of 2000/2001) and created gazillions of jobs over the next few years
6. Pulled the country together after 9/11 as shown by his skyrocketing polls over and above the opposition of the liberal media
7. Fought two successful wars (I opposed both of them) and made our friends like us and our enemies fear us, which is how it should be... By so doing, he took the fight over our enemies territory and kept this country safe... By the same token, he freed two nations that were suffering under bloody dictators and gave them a decent chance at democracy - it's up to them to hold onto those gains
8. Distanced himself from the UN where dictatorships are in the majority (great move)
9. Supported Israel like no other president before him (Sharon's own words)
10. Brought back decency to the White House after Clinton's lies and (as a result) well deserved humiliating impeachment and disbarment
11. Stood for the rights of our soldiers
12. Stood for the value of life and the rights of the unborn
13. Things were going fine until the Dems took over the Congress in 2006 and brought progress to a screetching halt - pushing cheap mortgages to millions who counld't afford them and covering up for Wall Street who nearly bankrupted us
14. Tried to expose the extreme bias to the left of our mass media and was punished severely by most of them
15. Even as his approval rate fell (the media saw to that) his score remained well above Pelosi's and Reed's single digits...

I may not have been his strongest supporter, because of the wars, but this is not too bad of a record, much better than many other presidents' records in recent history.

And now we have this incompetent, inexperienced man trying to figure out how to run the show... but the teleprompter doesn't seem to help much there days

Regarding Bush, it's too bad we can't tell how much of that was given to his talent and how much to his birth (or what he was born into).

 

[Yannis]

Quote from Ivanovich:

Regarding Bush, it's too bad we can't tell how much of that was given to his talent and how much to his birth (or what he was born into).

And Obama "earned" his being (half) black? We all do what we can with what we get. Both of these two men have done well with their lot in life.

 

[MohdSalleh]

Quote from ..........:

Before Obama addressed the spill his approval ratings were 45-46 %

After addressing the issue his approval ratings has been 48-50 %

LOL !!!


Only dumbass Republicans can think this is Obamas fault.Maybe if Obama had advance notice like Bush did with Katrina and 9-11

Obams is always RIGHT, he can do no wrong. Time to award him a fields medal, wolf prize, turing prize etc together with his peace award, throw in an olympics gold medal as well.

 

[jem]

hold on a minute.

we just experienced an economic meltdown and then a 13 trillion dollar cash give away. Plus a multi trillion dollar looting accomplished by the oil market and Iraq.

The economy may be tentatively stabilised by the historic cash transfer to China and the Bankders... But we are on the precipice of a second huge leg down. (I suspect a 70% chance it will happen) .

Clinton, Rubin and Graham and the rest of our crooked congress ...eased glass steagall and refused to regulate the derivatives.

Greenspan (pretending not to be an employee of the banks - but really is by charter) loosened credit during a bubble and his bank friends proceeded to sell trillions of dollars in puts (mortgages) and thereby transfered trillions in wealth.

Another few more trillion was set up by the Cheney and Bush's oil gouge. (adding to the petroleum reserve while prices were escalating.... (very greenspan like)

The western world's future was looted to the tune of trillions of dollars by a cabal starting with Clinton - continuing through Bush and then continued by Obama....

Does anyone here really think these scumbag politicians were good for America or the West?

I am willing to change my mind on Obama - in case he does decide to serve hardworking americans... but right now these guys all are part of a cabal which looted and continue to loot america and Europe.

 

[Mav88]

I have not thought that any president that I can remember was intellectually gifted. Politicians are actors mostly, they have some belief system with some stronger than others but it is not well developed or deep belief system typically.

Bush wasn't dumb, he lacked mental discipline. He loved to play the leadership game, and was very good at it, but I doubt that he did much homework at night.

Obama isn't dumb either, but he's clearly not the intellectual giant the demos packaged him as. In fact he is something of a lightweight, but because he has honed the stage role of 'wise man speaking measured thoughts' he can keep the Chris Matthews crowd pissing down their slacks. Another problem is now he actually believes it, to go along with his actor-celebrity narcissist complex.

ok they are both douches, what I care about is the actual policies and actions that result. If I have to vote between them, I plug my nose and vote Bush because less damage gets done. That seems to be about choice we get these days.

 

[Yannis]

Quote from Mav88:

...Bush wasn't dumb, he lacked mental discipline...

Obama isn't dumb either, but he's clearly not the intellectual giant the demos packaged him as. In fact he is something of a lightweight, but because he has honed the stage role of 'wise man speaking measured thoughts' he can keep the Chris Matthews crowd pissing down their slacks...

What I can say about Bush is that he often came across as timid and looking for his next word. Deer in the headlights phenomenon. That doesn't make him dumb.

I would classify myself as a strong introvert, but AT&T promoted me all the way to Executive Director over 18 years and for the subsequent 10 years I've made a very good living as a full time trader. We all have different gifts and we should be judged by the fruits of our work (and the content of our character) not how we appear to others who don't know us.

Let us not forget the "form vs function" conundrum that has plagued business and politics for millenia. The best speakers often make the dumbest mistakes...

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Covertibility:


So when does Bobo the Stinky Chimp launch his 2012 campaign?

Obama?

I think it started at his inauguration.

 

[Ivanovich]

Quote from Yannis:

And Obama "earned" his being (half) black? We all do what we can with what we get. Both of these two men have done well with their lot in life.

Why are you comparing the two? I'm not. I think Obama sucks. Forget about him for the purpose of this conversation. It's like you have something to prove with it. I agree with 99.98% of everything you have ever said about Obama on this website.

But I'm talking about Bush only.

 

[Ivanovich]

Quote from jem:



I am willing to change my mind on Obama - in case he does decide to serve hardworking americans... but right now these guys all are part of a cabal which looted and continue to loot america and Europe.

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