Obama OUTRAGE... "Wounded Military Should Pay Their Own Medical Costs"...

Quote from drjekyllus:

I don't know why this would be a surprise. In general, statists such as Obama have a deep distain for veterans.

Really now?

Is that why he signed into law the +8.2% increase in the MHS- United Medical Budget for FY-2010 over 2009 - - - $47.4 BILLION that goes to taking care of military personnel and their families?

http://www.defenselink.mil/comptroller/defbudget/fy2010/fy2010_SSJ_Special_Topics.pdf


Once again, Dr. Jerk-Off has no idea what he's talking about.
Far be it from him to actually reference the FACTS.

The same goes for Gnome or Scataphagos or whatever his current alias is these days.
 
Quote from Landis82:




Once again, Dr. Jerk-Off has no idea what he's talking about.
Far be it from him to actually reference the FACTS.

The same goes for Gnome or Scataphagos or whatever his current alias is these days.


Agreed
 
Martin Wolf of the FT, shortly after the election of 2004:

These US elections were an earthquake. The American people have done far more than re-elect an administration that is as reckless as it is radical. They have also given the same party secure control over Congress. Republicans will now try to secure a Supreme Court of much the same complexion. Should they succeed, rightwing populism will animate all three branches of American government.
Contemporary Republicans are not conservatives. On the contrary, theirs is a revolutionary movement aimed at overthrowing much of the post-second-world-war order at home and abroad.

What did he mean? Read and learn:

REP. ARMEY: Of course their taxes are going to go up. And, and, and what—one of the things about how to pay for it that I think is really causing a lot of distress and anxiety, especially among seniors—and where you want to talk about a real miserable instability I’ve observed the last couple of weeks, seniors today are captured by Medicare. They have no choice, they can’t get out of it if they want to without being punished by the government....

MR. GREGORY: Rachel...

REP. ARMEY: They’re scared to death of what the government’s going to do with them.

MR. GREGORY: OK. Rachel:

MS. MADDOW: Do you really think that there’s a major uprising of seniors wanting to get out of Medicare? I know you’re suing the government for your right personally to get out of Medicare.

REP. ARMEY: Right.

MS. MADDOW: But do you really think that’s the problem...

SEN. COBURN: Is it...

MS. MADDOW: ...that Medicare—that seniors hate Medicare and they want out?

REP. ARMEY: No, I didn’t say that. Most seniors—I was talking to my minister the other day. My minister says, “Dick, I’m so fortunate I’m in Medicare.” I said, “Bless you, my, my friend that you get to be in it if you choose to be so.” But if you give a government program and you let me choose to be in or choose to be out, that’s generosity. If you force me in, irrespective of my desires, that’s tyranny. Now, if Medicare’s $46 trillion in the red, with no idea how we’re going to pay for it, why, why do they not let people who don’t want to be in out?

MS. MADDOW: This is...

MR. GREGORY: Let me—I want to get it...

REP. ARMEY: I mean, that’s...

MS. MADDOW: Just—I—very briefly.

REP. ARMEY: This, this, this defies logic.

MS. MADDOW: This is a really important point. The anti-healthcare reform lobby thinks that Medicare is tyranny, OK?

REP. ARMEY: I did—I said...

MS. MADDOW: This is an—I mean, you said in 1995 that “Medicare is a program I would have no part of in a free world.”

REP. ARMEY: Right. Absolutely right.

MS. MADDOW: You said in 2002, “We’re going to have to bite the bullet on Social Security and phase it out over a period of time.”

REP. ARMEY: And I’m going to enumerate exactly what I’m talking about. Medicare...

MS. MADDOW: Americans need to know this is your position and this is the position of the anti-healthcare reform lobby.

MR. GREGORY: I’m going to, I’m going to stop this...

REP. ARMEY: This is the Medicare law that was written and...

MS. MADDOW: It’s very important to understand.


REP. ARMEY: The Medicare law that was written by the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee and the chief lobbyists of Blue Cross/Blue Shield, voted on without amendment as an amendment to Social Security, first imposes severe sanctions on physicians and medical providers that don’t comply with its requirements, and it says to seniors at the age of 65 you can no longer buy the insurance that you bought prior to 65. And now by virtue of an internal memo—not a regulation, not a law—they tell seniors today...

MR. GREGORY: All right.

REP. ARMEY: ...if you don’t sign up for Medicare you’ll lose your Social Security.

MR. GREGORY: I want to...

REP. ARMEY: Now, if—you tell me what, what, what that has to do with anybody’s notion of liberty...

MS. MADDOW: Tell me what that has to do with healthcare reform.

This is why they can't tell the difference between satire and something a person would actually and truly have said and done.
My eighth-grade history teacher pointed out to us the difference between revolutionaries and ordinary folks: revolutionaries have no sense of humor.
The fact that the OP wasn't able to figure out that the quote that started this thread out was satire is very telling. It's simple: he has no sense of humor.
The other way you can tell a radical is by looking at the exchange between Maddow and Armey: faced with a real world debate about a real world proposal, Armey resorts to talking about "what this has to do with anyone's notion of liberty". Radicals are always more interested in ideological purity than they are in practical solutions to real-world problems.
Obama is interested in the latter, and so is still trying to figure out a compromise that would bring some Republicans on board.
As this and all the other threads on this board on this subject show, it's hopeless. He's a practical man dealing with ideological idiots. He should simply give the Republicans and conservatives hell, and be done with it.
 
Quote from Landis82:

Really now?

Is that why he signed into law the +8.2% increase in the MHS- United Medical Budget for FY-2010 over 2009 - - - $47.4 BILLION that goes to taking care of military personnel and their families?

http://www.defenselink.mil/comptroller/defbudget/fy2010/fy2010_SSJ_Special_Topics.pdf


Once again, Dr. Jerk-Off has no idea what he's talking about.
Far be it from him to actually reference the FACTS.

The same goes for Gnome or Scataphagos or whatever his current alias is these days.

Once again FloydLandis82 you are wrong. Read it and weep.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/03/18/obama_drops_controversial_thir.html?wprss=44
 
Quote from Landis82:

Really now?

Is that why he signed into law the +8.2% increase in the MHS- United Medical Budget for FY-2010 over 2009 - - - $47.4 BILLION that goes to taking care of military personnel and their families?

http://www.defenselink.mil/comptroller/defbudget/fy2010/fy2010_SSJ_Special_Topics.pdf


Once again, Dr. Jerk-Off has no idea what he's talking about.
Far be it from him to actually reference the FACTS.

The same goes for Gnome or Scataphagos or whatever his current alias is these days.

Hey Landis82, YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT!

I agreed to stop referring to you as the "Nastiest, ill-tempered, head-up-your-ass, SOB, ASSHOLE I ever encountered on the internet", and you agreed to leave my name out of your posts.

So, what's the deal? You can't live without name calling and personal attacks? You can't hold to your end of an agreement?

No need to respond... I'll be putting you back on ignore. Just wanted to take this opportunity to reinforce your jerk-off-edness in case any ETer had any doubt.
 
Quote from trefoil:

Obama is interested in the latter, and so is still trying to figure out a compromise that would bring some Republicans on board.
As this and all the other threads on this board on this subject show, it's hopeless. He's a practical man dealing with ideological idiots. He should simply give the Republicans and conservatives hell, and be done with it.

You're using humour, right ?

Obama may be a practical man, but more than likely he is a politician.

Obama is dealing with ideological idiots ?

Obama is a socialist ideologue, his mentors are/were socialist ideologues, and many of his appointments are socialist / marxist ideologues. I assume therefore, that your statement regarding ideological idiots would be anyone who is not a socialist / marxist.

11 of the 24 congressional committee chairs are held by socialists.

Pratical man dealing with idiots ! That is humorous!

These cabals of fabian/progressive/socialist radicals in the congress have been laying dormant since Clinton, but Obama has given these radical cicada the opportunity to unleash their political pornography upon an unsuspecting public.

You stated that Obama should just give the Republicans and conservatives "hell" and be done with it..........Let us hope that "hell" does not spill over to the nation also.
 
Care to provide links to anyone you mention below that is a registered member of the socialist party...?

Thanks.

Quote from Barth Vader:

You're using humour, right ?

Obama may be a practical man, but more than likely he is a politician.

Obama is dealing with ideological idiots ?

Obama is a socialist ideologue, his mentors are/were socialist ideologues, and many of his appointments are socialist / marxist ideologues. I assume therefore, that your statement regarding ideological idiots would be anyone who is not a socialist / marxist.

11 of the 24 congressional committee chairs are held by socialists.

Pratical man dealing with idiots ! That is humorous!

These cabals of fabian/progressive/socialist radicals in the congress have been laying dormant since Clinton, but Obama has given these radical cicada the opportunity to unleash their political pornography upon an unsuspecting public.

You stated that Obama should just give the Republicans and conservatives "hell" and be done with it..........Let us hope that "hell" does not spill over to the nation also.
 
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