Obama On Economy: I Don't Control The Weather

[Lucrum]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Not a big difference between 15 and 22 out of 44.

You're correct, in that neither constitutes "greatness" of any kind.

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from Lucrum:

The "top 25" LOL! There has only been 44.

According to you then they are nearly all "great" presidents.

Certainly not,top 20 is great imo.IF Obama's presidency ends next year he is top 20

If Obama gets a second term with no major terrorist attacks and leaves office with 7 % or less unemployment and 95 % + of Americans have health care he is top 10 or higher

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from Lucrum:

You're correct, in that neither constitutes "greatness" of any kind.

I disagree

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from Lucrum:

The "top 25" LOL! There has only been 44.

According to you then they are nearly all "great" presidents.

You're grasping at straws in a vain attempt to desperately hang on to your delusion that Odumbo has been or will be considered a "great" president.

35 or lower is among the worst,and thats definitely where Bush 2 is

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Certainly not,top 20 is great imo.IF Obama's presidency ends next year he is top 20

Top 20 out of 44 is NOT "great" by any reputable standard. Now the bleeding heart liberal standard is of course different. You know, the standard where everyone gets a gold star just for showing up. According to your latest BS about him being ranked 22 out of 44. He would be considered by definition average/mediocre.

If Obama gets a second term with no major terrorist attacks and leaves office with 7 % or less unemployment and 95 % of Americans have health care he is top 10 or higher

That's an awful lot of "if's".

Wishful thinking much?

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from Lucrum:


That's an awful lot of "if's".

Wishful thinking much?

Not really.He's only 1 percentage point from 7 % unemployment.Obamacare is already passed and he's kicking so much Al Queada ass its hard for them to pull off a major attack

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Not really.He's only 1 percentage point from 7 % unemployment.

1.6 actually

Obamacare is already passed

Yes which is one reason his approval rating is so low. You admitted yourself it was largely worthless legislation.

and he's kicking so much Al Queada ass its hard for them to pull off a major attack

Really? According to you a 15 year old can fly a large passenger jet. TSA failed to stop both the shoe bomber and the underwear from boarding their flights.

 

[Max E.]

LOL, so a bunch of "scholars" a.k.a. liberal university professors give Obama a favourable rating, real shocker, is this kind of like Obozo winning a nobel peace prize right before getting us involved in 2 more wars? All of these lberal groups who are fawning over Obama have zero credibility.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20009531-503544.html


Scholars Rank Obama the 15th Best President

 

[jem]

This is comedy.

would the onion or daily show even write this?

"On the flip side, if Obama is re-elected and seen as the transformational president he seeks to be, he is likely to be viewed as a "Near Great" president and land at the fourth overall spot on the ranking list -- one place below George Washington and one above Thomas Jefferson, Nichols said."

Its like saying if I played golf the way I envisioned, I could get in a us open qualifying regional, birdie every hole, get into the us open, birdie and every hole and win the U.S. Open.

 

[Max E.]

This one doesnt even hide the fact that they give extra points to presidents the more liberal they are, AND THEY STILL ONLY RANK OBAMA 22ND. twice in its description of its rankings it says they award extra ponits for being more "progressive". LOL, nothing like a bunch of liberal professors getting together for a circle jerk and re-writing the history book.

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

22nd even with only 1 term


http://www.baylor.edu/pr/news.php?action=story&story=98755



Obama: Our 22nd Greatest President?
Aug. 23, 2011


As if President Barack Obama doesn't already have enough to worry about, a statistical analysis of presidential ranking surveys suggests that he is likely to be viewed as an "average" president by expert evaluators if he serves only one term, according to a Baylor University researcher.

Under these conditions, Obama is predicted to land at the 22nd overall spot on the ranking list -- between William McKinley and George H.W. Bush. This would dash the President's self-professed hope of being viewed as "a really good one-term president" if he loses in November 2012, according to conclusions based upon research by Curt Nichols, Ph.D., an assistant professor of political science at Baylor.

Nichols will present his research on Sept. 4 at the annual meeting of the American Political Science Association in Seattle.

On the flip side, if Obama is re-elected and seen as the transformational president he seeks to be, he is likely to be viewed as a "Near Great" president and land at the fourth overall spot on the ranking list -- one place below George Washington and one above Thomas Jefferson, Nichols said.

Nichols' research, using a statistical method known as regression analysis, evaluates presidential ranking polls conducted by The Wall Street Journal, C-SPAN and the Siena Research Institute. He found that eight factors are consistently used by experts to give presidents their rating scores.

The rating scores of presidents increase:

• With the number of years they serve

• When they are recognized as wartime leaders

• When they successfully transform the political landscape

• When they are a member of the founding fathers

• When they are considered a progressive in "pursuit of equal justice for all"

• When they are assassinated progressives, such as Abraham Lincoln or John F. Kennedy

The rating scores of presidents decrease:

• When the president is impeached, resigns or has an administration noted for major scandal

• When they either push the nation into political crisis or fail to lift the country out of one

"Even as one-term president, Obama would be expected to receive credits for serving four years and being both a wartime president and a progressive," Nichols said. "However, he most likely would be penalized for failing to lift the nation out of crisis."

Research reveals that expert evaluators do not make distinctions between presidents who cause crises, like George W. Bush, and those who fail to lift the nation out of them, like Jimmy Carter.

Nichols cautioned that the analysis only reveals the factors experts use in their evaluations. It does not suggest that these are the criteria that should be used.

Contact: Terry Goodrich, Assistant Director of Media Communications, (254) 710-3321