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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1583130/Two-terrorists-released-from-prison-early.html

Two terrorists released from prison early

By Philip Johnston, Home Affairs Editor
Published: 7:00PM GMT 28 Mar 2008

Yassin Nassari was freed from Wakefield prison last month
Two convicted terrorists have been released early under a controversial Government scheme to ease prison over-crowding, ministers have been forced to admit.

One is a radical Muslim cleric - Yassin Nassari, 29 - who was caught trying to smuggle blueprints on how to build a missile into Britain.


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The identity of the second terrorist had not been made public but the BBC reported he was Abdul Muneem Patel, who was released from Glen Parva jail in Leicestershire on Jan 7 this year.

Patel, of east London, was jailed for six months at the Old Bailey in October 2007 after a jury found him guilty of having a terrorism-related explosives manual.

The judge said there was no reasonable excuse to have the manual - but added the teenager was not a "radicalised or politicised Islamist".

After news of the early releases became public, Jack Straw, the Justice Secretary, was forced to announce emergency measures to prevent the future early release of terrorists.

However Mr Straw was accused of putting Britons in danger following the release of the men before they had served their sentences.

David Davis, the shadow Home Secretary, said that the releases "defied common sense" coming just days before the Government attempts to toughen the country's terrorism laws to allow suspects to be held for longer.

"Jack Straw must now say when he knew about this, and why he has only just acted," Mr Davis said.

"Was Nassari [the convicted terrorist] released with or without his knowledge? "If it was without, who on earth is running his department?"

"The Government's perverse approach to security defies common sense. On the one hand, they are trying to pass a new law extending the period for holding innocent people – convicted of nothing – when we already have the longest period of pre-charge detention in the free world. On the other hand, they are releasing a terrorist we have managed to bring to justice, a dangerous man convicted in our courts for researching how to deploy military weapons in this country."

Liberal Democrat justice spokesman Chris Huhne added: "There is a huge discrepancy between the Government's rhetoric on terrorism and its actions. Next week ministers will bring before Parliament unnecessary and draconian legislation on pre-charge detention in a desperate attempt to look tough on terrorism.

"People convicted of terrorist offences can be back in society having served less than half their sentence because of our desperately overstretched prison system."

Mr Nassari was jailed for three and half years last July for possessing material that would be useful to terrorists.

He was caught trying to smuggle blueprints showing how to build a missile into Britain but was cleared of a more serious charge of possessing articles for terrorist purposes.

Nassari was freed from Wakefield prison last month under the 'end of custody licence' scheme which allows inmates to leave jail up to 18 days before the half-way point of their term. It was brought in as an emergency measure to ease pressures on the system caused by a record rise in the number of prisoners to more than 80,000.

Figures to be released on Monday will show that more than 20,000 offenders have been released early since the scheme came into effect last summer. However, Nassari is believed to be the first sentenced to terrorist-related crimes to benefit.

The disclosure last night drew fresh criticism of the scheme from the Conservatives, who say it should be scrapped.

Nassari from Ealing, West London, was stopped at Luton airport in May 2006 after getting off an easyJet flight from Holland with his wife.

Police discovered a mass of jihadi material on a laptop and removable hard drive including blueprints for an Al Qassam 1.5 rocket used by the Palestinian terror group Hamas.

The files showed detailed measurements and information about the missile components, how to make the propellant and explosive charge and the assembly of the completed rocket.

Also hidden in the files were articles entitled 'Virtues of martyrdom in the path of Allah,' 'Islamic Ruling on the Permissibility of Self-Sacrificial Operation – Suicide or Martyrdom?' 'Taking care of the family left behind by the fighter' and 'Providing for the families of the martyrs.'

Nassari had been a student at Westminster University where the welfare officer described him as "wearing western clothes and enjoying a drink".

He disappeared between 2002 and 2003 re-appearing in long robes and headgear and referring to himself as "emir" of the student's Islamic society.

After his arrest, Nassari was remanded in custody for more than a year and was released eight months after being jailed at the Old Bailey.

Some prisoners can qualify for release four and half months earlier than the half-way point under a home detention curfew (HDC) – or tagging – scheme.

But inmates convicted under terrorist laws cannot benefit from HDC – though they do qualify for the 18-day early release if they are serving less than four years.

A Justice Ministry spokesman initially said: "The prisoner met the criteria for early release under the End of Custody Licence (ECL) scheme. Where a prisoner satisfies the criteria then release must follow."

The National Offender Management Service said arrangements were made with the relevant police and probation services to ensure they were aware of Nassari's release. He is subject to licence conditions and to probation arrangements.

There was no suggestion he had reoffended while on early release.

The spokesman added: "Terrorism-related offences involving serious violence – such as using explosives to commit GBH or hijacking are excluded from ECL.

"All those released on ECL would have to have been released at their statutory release date a maximum of 18 days later. "It is for this reason that ECL operates according to precise fixed criteria.''

However, later, Mr Straw said: "In the light of this case I have taken action to tackle this issue – no more prisoners convicted under terrorism legislation will be released through the ECL scheme."

Since the scheme was introduced 3,400 violent offenders have been freed earl and 367 crimes have been committed by prisoners on early release – including one murder.

Around 700 prisoners have been recalled for breaching the conditions of the scheme but 125 failed to respond.
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Neither one of these killed Americans. What part of that do you not understand? The liberal logic at work again.
 
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Neither one of these killed Americans. What part of that do you not understand? The liberal logic at work again.
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The stupid thing about insider's reply is he's trying to support Obama by showing us something similar that he obviously doesn't agree with.

Like you said, liberal logic.
 
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They won't mention it. State run media will let it just go away.
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State funded not state run numbnuts. The spats between the BBC, Conservatives and Labour are fierce when governments have attempted gerrymandering.
 
Keep it up Republicans.

You've allowed Neoconservative thinking to permeate and virtually destroy your party. If you continue along this path of self-imploding political destruction, you can count on never seeing the inside of the White House for at least the next 30 years.

As an Independent, I am appalled at the total lack of leadership that has come from the right over the past eight years. You've owned national government with outright majority control for six of those eight years. In that time, our national debt has increased, taxes have increased, our economy has imploded and we've entered two wars that will ultimately cost us trillions when all is said and done. All for the sake of American Imperialism, that has been the calling card left behind by every single Neoconservative that mainstream Conservatives have failed to detect, as they began taking over your party with the election of Bush I.

Conservatives, you have been duped. You've been infiltrated. You've been used and abused beyond imagination. You've allowed your party to be skyjacked and flown directly into the side of the American People - We The People, have suffered tremendously for it, not to mention approximately 95,000 innocent men, women and children in Iraq. When, will you wake up and recognize the enormous responsibility you had over the past eight years, at least - instead of pretending to lay blame on Obama's door-step, for things left behind for him to clean-up as a direct result of a failure to lead by your own party.

I represent that ever growing Swing Vote, that you will need if you ever intend on seeing the White House, or Congress, again. I represent the moderate vote. The common sense vote. The vote that is grown sick and tired of politics as usual in Washington.

Don't you get it, Republicans? Politics in America changed with the illegal invasion of Iraq, and the 2008 Presidential vote. Did you not see the change? Do you not understand what it means for your political party? Both Democrats and especially Republicans, are going to have to move to the Center, where most salient thought in America resides.

It is time to get real and keep it real. All of this pretense about our problems having their root cause with Obama, is not impressing the collective intelligentsia within the growing number of diverse Independent Voters that I know.

Wake up, Republicans.

There is a lot about true conservative values that are good and worthy of consideration, but this transparent "hate" being spewed at Obama, impresses no one other than the very small minded on the fringe of extremism.
 
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Keep it up Republicans.

You've allowed Neoconservative thinking to permeate and virtually destroy your party. If you continue along this path of self-imploding political destruction, you can count on never seeing the inside of the White House for at least the next 30 years.

As an Independent, I am appalled at the total lack of leadership that has come from the right over the past eight years. You've owned national government with outright majority control for six of those eight years. In that time, our national debt has increased, taxes have increased, our economy has imploded and we've entered two wars that will ultimately cost us trillions when all is said and done. All for the sake of American Imperialism, that has been the calling card left behind by every single Neoconservative that mainstream Conservatives have failed to detect, as they began taking over your party with the election of Bush I.

Conservatives, you have been duped. You've been infiltrated. You've been used and abused beyond imagination. You've allowed your party to be skyjacked and flown directly into the side of the American People - We The People, have suffered tremendously for it, not to mention approximately 95,000 innocent men, women and children in Iraq. When, will you wake up and recognize the enormous responsibility you had over the past eight years, at least - instead of pretending to lay blame on Obama's door-step, for things left behind for him to clean-up as a direct result of a failure to lead by your own party.

I represent that ever growing Swing Vote, that you will need if you ever intend on seeing the White House, or Congress, again. I represent the moderate vote. The common sense vote. The vote that is grown sick and tired of politics as usual in Washington.

Don't you get it, Republicans? Politics in America changed with the illegal invasion of Iraq, and the 2008 Presidential vote. Did you not see the change? Do you not understand what it means for your political party? Both Democrats and especially Republicans, are going to have to move to the Center, where most salient thought in America resides.

It is time to get real and keep it real. All of this pretense about our problems having their root cause with Obama, is not impressing the collective intelligentsia within the growing number of diverse Independent Voters that I know.

Wake up, Republicans.

There is a lot about true conservative values that are good and worthy of consideration, but this transparent "hate" being spewed at Obama, impresses no one other than the very small minded on the fringe of extremism.
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Good God. Did you copy and paste this? There is nothing original about it.
 
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