Obama good for the economy ?

[jem]

Quote from oldtime:

and how's that working out for you?

Its tough to answer that without sounding like a jerk. but the fluid class structure worked out great for my parents and therefore me as a kid.

My dad grew up poor... put himself through school as a lawyer, lived a good life, made a lot trading gold in two different decades and then in his retirement he made about 5 million in the markets... mostly swing trading. He did not really get to accumulate much money until we had low taxes.

 

[oldtime]

Quote from jem:

Its tough to answer that without sounding like a jerk. but the fluid class structure worked out great for my parents and therefore me as a kid.

My dad grew up poor... put himself through school as a lawyer, lived a good life, made a lot trading gold in two different decades and then in his retirement he made about 5 million in the markets... mostly swing trading. He did not really get to accumulate much money until we had low taxes.

I hear ya, but that was then, this is now

aint nobody that likes low taxes more then me, so you're just preaching to the choir

but I like making money

and I need them to have it so I can make it from them

 

[oldtime]

Quote from oldtime:

I hear ya, but that was then, this is now

aint nobody that likes low taxes more then me, so you're just preaching to the choir

but I like making money

and I need them to have it so I can make it from them

if you keep making money from the poor, over and over again, you will dirive the country into poverty

 

[ZapCoffee]

No, he's obviously pretty bad. But most of the problems we're facing today aren't really his fault. They're all issues that were inherited from Bush, including the budget deficits.

The bad thing is that he hasn't done anything to fix them.

 

[Scataphagos]

Quote from ZapCoffee:

No, he's obviously pretty bad. But most of the problems we're facing today aren't really his fault. They're all issues that were inherited from Bush, including the budget deficits.

The bad thing is that he hasn't done anything to fix them.

Odumbo is HUGELY AT FAULT... for his ramping up deficits for government programs. That's MUCH worse than "Bush deficits"... which can be throttled-back just by stopping the war activities. Odumbo's deficits are more-or-less permanent expenditures in the budget.... the burden of which we will never overcome.... and he knows it. It's the keystone in his plan to DESTROY AMERICA! And greedy, stupid fuckers like you are helping him do it. What do you think this means for the future of your kids/grandkids??

 

[riddler]

He hasn't done anything? He passed a healthcare bill ( like it or not). Politicians have been talking for Years about healthcare and he actually did something. There are plenty of good things in that bill, I actually like it. I am not thrilled about forcing a business owner to offer healthcare though ( more than 50 employees) but then again, any bill will not be perfect.

 

[vicirek]

Quote from riddler:

He hasn't done anything? He passed a healthcare bill ( like it or not). There are plenty of good things in that bill, I actually like it.

Because you understand very little. This and every other bill Socialists pass is not about health care but about politics and about supporting their own corrupt electorate. There will be no more health care provided for people after it is implemented but the money collected will support democratic political base. It also serves as an attack springboard against their opponents and potential supporters of the opposition like independent businesses. Yes the list of "changes" is impressive. Just do not forget to check it later how it works in practice.

I cannot believe that people in 21st century can still be easily fooled despite many obvious examples in the past. Besides why they call themselves Democrats. Did you notice that there is less democracy under their leadership?

 

[riskaddict]

Quote from riddler:


One thing I am very disappointed in is this; Obama needs to address the black community regarding their irresponsible behavior such as children out of wedlock, single parent households, and emphasis on spurts and rap music opposed to more conventional ways of making a living. He needs to do this now, it's the perfect opportunity.

I'm ashamed to say it but this is the reason I voted for him the 1st time. He mentioned self reliance and responsibility when he was campaigning and I was one of those white people that fell for it hook line and sinker.

In 4 years we need to to vote in an old ass president to convince all these baby boomers to stop fighting death and just let it happen so medicare can be saved!

 

[riskaddict]

Quote from piezoe:

Show me a person who would choose protecting the rich over paying their light bill, and I'll show you an idiot!

Isn't that most of the population in the South East?

 

[DHOHHI]

Quote from riddler:

Yeah, I know, everyone says he's a socialist liberal..really ? Why did most Americans vote for him then. Although I don't agree with everything he does at least he actually does something.
Healthcare-

2) you cannot be denied coverage for an existing condition

4) you cannot be thrown off a plan due to some bull shiX technicality. Insurance companies are great at that, looking for every small loophole..no more..

I sympathize with those who have pre-existing conditions that are beyond their control. But ... people who consciously CHOOSE to abuse their body that then creates health issues should be denied coverage or pay significantly higher rates. 2/3 of the country is overweight or obese. I'll bet many of these people have issues; cardiac, diabetes, cholesterol, etc. When people choose to eat fast food, drink excessively, abuse drugs, fail to exercise and look like complete blobs they should either (1) pay HIGHER premiums than fit, healthy people in their age group (2) be denied coverage by some companies.

Why should health insurance be different that auto or homeowners? If you're a crappy driver with tickets you lose coverage or pay higher rates. Same with homeowners -- too many claims and your premiums rise.