Obama Goes Full Clinton Foundation With Series Of $400,000 Wall Street Speeches

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I think it is time you go read the Clinton foundation financials and find the evidence that supports your claims regarding charitable giving.

If you support the Clinton Foundation so much why aren't you donating your money to it.

So here's gwb-tradings "logic"

gwb - "Show me where the charitable giving is"
everyone else "Well part of it is here, and not all non-profits devote all or even part of their resources to direct aid"
gwb - "OK, but they only gave 13% as direct aid, therefore they're illigitimate"
everyone else "As we've explained to you several times, there are plenty of legitimate non-profit business models that don't involve direct aid"
gwb - "But, but...go read the financials, they're not giving direct aid. And if you personally don't donate money to them then that proves they're illegitimate"

Here's the deal. You don't have any experience in this area and don't really understand it. You thought is was black and white, but as has been amply pointed out it is far more nuanced and what you thought you understood was just dead wrong. An intelligent self-aware person would realize that, do a little research, talk to some people who have actually worked in this area, and adjust their opinions based on what they learned.

The only question remainin is, are you an intelligent, self-aware person?

 

[gwb-trading]

I didn't make any claims, I linked to an actual organization that audited and proved your BS claims false.

I don't have to support a foundation to bust lies being spread about them, if you posted lies about Trump, I would bust them as well.

Charity and CharityNavigator do not audit any charity. They just provide a rating based on publicly available information. The Clinton Foundations financials speak loudly for what an uncharitable organization it is.

To be fair, in my opinion Donald Trump's charities are also a scam that are simply self-serving for Trump. Just like the Clinton Foundation for the Clintons.

 

[gwb-trading]

So here's gwb-tradings "logic"

gwb - "Show me where the charitable giving is"
everyone else "Well part of it is here, and not all non-profits devote all or even part of their resources to direct aid"
gwb - "OK, but they only gave 13% as direct aid, therefore they're illigitimate"
everyone else "As we've explained to you several times, there are plenty of legitimate non-profit business models that don't involve direct aid"
gwb - "But, but...go read the financials, they're not giving direct aid. And if you personally don't donate money to them then that proves they're illegitimate"

Here's the deal. You don't have any experience in this area and don't really understand it. You thought is was black and white, but as has been amply pointed out it is far more nuanced and what you thought you understood was just dead wrong. An intelligent self-aware person would realize that, do a little research, talk to some people who have actually worked in this area, and adjust their opinions based on what they learned.

The only question remainin is, are you an intelligent, self-aware person?

"The only question remainin is, are you an intelligent, self-aware person"

The only question remaining is can you make any possible defense from the Clinton Foundation financials that the organization is charitable.

I can certainly understand I have a lot more experience on non-profit boards then you - certainly you should at least personally try to understand why the Clinton Foundation fails as a legitimate charitable organization.

There's no possible nuance that can pass the Clinton Foundation's expenditures and activities as being charitable. It is all about building the global brand of the Clintons.

 

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Charity and CharityNavigator do not audit any charity. They just provide a rating based on publicly available information. The Clinton Foundations financials speak loudly for what an uncharitable organization it is.

To be fair, in my opinion Donald Trump's charities are also a scam that are simply self-serving for Trump. Just like the Clinton Foundation for the Clintons.

Their analysis is as good as an audit, the publicly available information is from the IRS unless you are saying those are fake as well.

I will rely on CharityNavigator's analysis over your uneducated opinion based on a satirical website, you were fooled by Breitbart about fake scientific papers, you are over your head trying to discern facts and numbers.

 

[Sig]

"The only question remainin is, are you an intelligent, self-aware person"

The only question remaining is can you make any possible defense from the Clinton Foundation financials that the organization is charitable.

I can certainly understand I have a lot more experience on non-profit boards then you - certainly you should at least personally try to understand why the Clinton Foundation fails as a legitimate charitable organization.

There's no possible nuance that can pass the Clinton Foundation's expenditures and activities as being charitable. It is all about building the global brand of the Clintons.

Why don't you address the specific issues I just pointed out? I know it's inconvenient, but give it a try. You clearly don't understand that a non-profit can provide non-direct aid. That's pretty fundamental to non-profits. What boards have you served on, exactly?

 

[gwb-trading]

Their analysis is as good as an audit, the publicly available information is from the IRS unless you are saying those are fake as well.

I will rely on CharityNavigator's analysis over your uneducated opinion based on a satirical website, you were fooled by Breitbart about fake scientific papers, you are over your head trying to discern facts and numbers.

Yet not once did you actually go to the Clinton Foundation website and read their financials. Whatever.

 

[exGOPer]

"The only question remainin is, are you an intelligent, self-aware person"

The only question remaining is can you make any possible defense from the Clinton Foundation financials that the organization is charitable.

I can certainly understand I have a lot more experience on non-profit boards then you - certainly you should at least personally try to understand why the Clinton Foundation fails as a legitimate charitable organization.

There's no possible nuance that can pass the Clinton Foundation's expenditures and activities as being charitable. It is all about building the global brand of the Clintons.

You are so experienced that you don't know how charitable program expenditures are listed on financials that it had to be pointed out to you. And you keep getting wrong percentage based on that ignorance?

You are outright lying after having shown multiple times that your so called analysis is fake and based on a satirical website.

 

[gwb-trading]

Why don't you address the specific issues I just pointed out? I know it's inconvenient, but give it a try. You clearly don't understand that a non-profit can provide non-direct aid. That's pretty fundamental to non-profits. What boards have you served on, exactly?

Well let me ask - are the financials of the Clinton Foundation more akin to a charity such as a Food Bank, or more similar to a non-profit youth soccer league with paid staff?

 

[exGOPer]

Well let me ask - are the financials of the Clinton Foundation more akin to a charity such as a Food Bank, or more similar to a non-profit youth soccer league with paid staff?

Daniel Borochoff, president and founder of CharityWatch, told us by phone that its analysis of the finances of the Clinton Foundation and its affiliates found that about 89 percent of the foundation budget is spent on programming (or “charity”), higher than the 75 percent considered the industry standard.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/

 

[Sig]

Well let me ask - are the financials of the Clinton Foundation more akin to a charity such as a Food Bank, or more similar to a non-profit youth soccer league with paid staff?

The UNITAID portion of what they do is much like a Food Bank. The Clinton Global Initiative is much more like the non-profit I work with and the one Arnie works with, both of which were described in detail in an earlier portion of the thread. They are nothing like either a food bank or a youth soccer league. Lots of NGO/non-profit models out there, there isn't a "right" one.