Obama's too busy on yet another fundraiser to give this serious consideration.
Obama Fail : What is his policy in Iraq?
- Thread starter jem
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he is one hell of a CiC.
On a better note, it looks like the iraqis are sacking up and not only standing their ground, but attacking in fallujah and some other places. Unfortunately it is also being reported that isis has already reached baghdad.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=262_1403043539
18 June 2014 Last updated at 17:05
Iraq has formally called on the US to launch air strikes against jihadist militants who have seized several key cities over the past week.
"We have a request from the Iraqi government for air power," confirmed top US military commander Gen Martin Dempsey in front of US senators.
Earlier the Sunni insurgents launched an attack on Iraq's biggest oil refinery at Baiji north of Baghdad. The Iraqi military says it has driven off Islamist-led militants attacking the country's biggest oil refinery amid reports it had been overrun. But an official source told Reuters the rebels had seized 75% of the Baiji refinery north of Baghdad.
Iraq has formally called on the US to launch air strikes against jihadist militants who have seized several key cities over the past week.
"We have a request from the Iraqi government for air power," confirmed top US military commander Gen Martin Dempsey in front of US senators.
Earlier the Sunni insurgents launched an attack on Iraq's biggest oil refinery at Baiji north of Baghdad. The Iraqi military says it has driven off Islamist-led militants attacking the country's biggest oil refinery amid reports it had been overrun. But an official source told Reuters the rebels had seized 75% of the Baiji refinery north of Baghdad.
They couldn't wait to get us out, now they would like us to put our troops and assets at risk to bail them out? I say no to that. We gave them how many billions in equipment and training? One of the biggest oil producers in the world, and we got squat for all our efforts. Anyone else see a problem with that? We are not mercenaries for the moronic malaki government or Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, although they all seem to act like we are. At least mercs get paid. We don't. Let them clean up their own mess.
Lots of companies made money off the Iraq invasion. Remember Halliburton? Even today Exxon was evacuating employees. This is what the US military has done from the beginning, pave the way for American business. So saying we got "squat" is wrong.
We're going back in, one way or another. We have to clean up Bush's mess. We came, we broke, now we gotta fix.
They need to first do an airstrike on the southern end of the Tikrit-Baghdad highway that blocks the highway, shoulders and median with destroyed vehicles then fly up and the do same on the north end. Then slow movers can walk munitions up and down that highway for a few hours and a lot of the badguys will probably egress northeast towards Baquba. These guys emptied the banks in Mosul and have recovered a lot of weaponry and equipment from the fleeing iraqi army.
Now that the boys defending Baghdad have seen the videos of captured soldiers being executed by the militants they seem a bit more interested in defending their ground.
Here is a good read , Jem.
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That is a dangerous delusion energetically asserted by the Paul Wolfowitzes and Dick Cheneys even now, as their mad schemes for a reinvented Mideast spectacularly disintegrate. In their minds, it is still deeply felt that if only Obama had stayed the course of occupation, we would be greeted as liberators, while our corporations quietly sucked up their oil.
Presidential candidate Obama made clear his contempt for that neocon pipe dream. Once elected, in regard to winding down the Iraq War, he has not strayed far from that conviction, and on this he much deserves our support. This is so even if it means going through the next decades of our political life arguing about "Who Lost Iraq?" the way we once argued about "Who Lost China?" -- ignoring that neither country was truly ours to lose.
full story here:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-scheer/up-close-and-personal-wit_b_5506092.html
Maybe the writer could take time out from bashing republicans to tell his own party's sec of state to butt out of the israel/palestinian question, because as he keeps saying, 'it's none of our business'. While he's at it, maybe he could bash previous foreign policy initiatives toward South Africa. What were we doing trying to influence them?
iow, the left goes about trying to influence other countries as it tells republicans that other countries are none of our business.
Support for what? Ignoring his military commanders and reality?
Here comes the revisionist history to blame Bush and protect Odumbo and the democraps, 111 of whom voted FOR the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002.
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Iraq was going so well when Odumbo inherited it that Biden predicted it would be one of the "great achievements of this administration."
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But Odumbo snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by ignoring the commanders on the ground who said we needed a residual force of ~20,000. Odumbo wanted out no matter what and used his "failure" to negotiate a SOFA as a pretense.