Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
The question voters have to ask is are they comfortable with the notion of a president who is a lifelong adherent of black liberation, ie marxist, theology? Who has spent his life as a shill for the racial grievance crowd? Who no doubt supports slavery reparations ( why did this never come up in the debates)?

Quote from Rearden Metal:
Canyonman, your description of Obama's flaws sounds spot-on to me, so since you seem to know how his mind works I have to ask: Do you think President Obama would finally put an end to drug prohibition (a policy rooted in anti African-American & Latino racism since inception)... or would he at least significantly de-claw some of the draconian enforcement & punishment methods (as seen in Europe)?
Quote from canyonman00:
I would definitly augment those questions with ones about his stances on:
A) The next generation of military equipment. He's vowed to spend hundreds of millions less on missles and other next-gen technologies.
B) The reparations question. There is a tiered payment plan in that mind that would scare the hell out of you if you heard it.
C) The non-renewing of leases for the oil community. When asked to explain, be prepared for a loop-de-loop concept that defies reality. But it is, in a word, interesting.
D) The logic for the auto industry changes he sees. This is truly a piece of work as the changes (in his mind) are but a mere pen stroke away.
E) The takeover and running of refineries by the government. There's a feeling that this is long overdue. The model he uses is Amtrak.
F) His feeling on how to fix Medicare, Medicaid, and the phantom social security funding need. All those solution start with, "I'll propose a new tax on..."
G) The questions on the public school system funding. Again, that answer starts with, "Oh that's not hard to fix. I'll tax...."
H) The questions for his solutions on ports, shipping, airlines, home mortgages, crime, and all the micro-managing that he feels necessary can't stand the light of day nor the test of viablity for many. But you do need to hear them!
I) NASA, please ask him. I was on the floor when I heard about this answer. Especially the part about turning that exploration over to a consortium of world powers. Using a major US funding component no less. To quote, "Sorta' like we do with NATO! The world needs to share in on the results to improve their country conditons."
J) His effective delegation skills are evidenced where again?
K) Two words, farm subsidies. Pick a point, develop three questions. Here's a area you wouldn't think to go to. Ask about the international farm subsidy concepts and how America can pay for them. Prepare to be amazed!
While it's true these are but thoughts he has, are you aware of them? He's running for an office that would let him implement these things. Shouldn't you know what he wants to do. Don't stop at his stump answer, drill down (pun intended) just a bit deeper and examine your findings closely. Form the follow-up question on his answer and see just how thin that preperation is. Folks, he's never had a job! There is no vast well of personal experiences to draw upon. Obama really can't afford to have a meaningful hardcore Q&A session based on the meat of experience for honestly running a country.
I could expose several more areas and points that would enlighten you to his thinking, but I'm not the opponent. You'd think with all that everyone is fearing in the world today, this (real questions) might have been a selection criterion for the office this year. Don't look to any in the press to bring up this type/line of questions. If they did, we'd have NO candidates.
By the way, McCain isn't the swiftest operative here either so don't look for these thoughts and line of questions to form in that head either.![]()
Quote from trefoil:
Arguing with PP and Triple A is an exercise in futility. If either one hit a post, it would be a meeting of the minds.
Obama won for the same reason that Ron Paul attracted attention far beyond his ability to coax votes out of the power-loving Neanderthals of the Republican Party: he was strikingly direct in his assessment of just how infinitely stupid the invasion of Iraq was.
Paul's speech in opposition of the war was far superior to Obama's, but he was and is in the wrong party for the message to be heard, as the last post by Triple A shows. Republicans are clueless as to why they are going to get beaten bloody this Fall. Why, I have no idea, given how blindingly obvious it is.
No one, except for a few stupid fanatics who still believe we could have won that war, wanted a repeat of Vietnam. But if you read PP and Triple A and the rest of the herd of idiotic reactionaries correctly, it seems that the fanatics have taken over that party, and are determined to draw exactly the wrong lesson from their impending defeat at the polls.
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
All the democrat candidates were against the war, even those who had been for it. All were for surrending immediately to al qaeda.
If you think Obama's appeal somehow was in his policy nuances, you haven't been paying attention. It's like saying CNBC viewers really appreciate Erin's insight on the markets.
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
If Obama was white, the same result would have been seen.

Quote from canyonman00:
There's a definite flaw in this theory. The African American community would not have turned out in the numbers (especially in the primary) nor would his candidacy have received the capital from the Internet from that same community. The same African Americans, especially the women, overwhelmingly would have went for Hilary. That being the case, the current democratic candidate would be Hilary. There really is one reason that she didn't get their votes this time. The only white male (currently) who could have taken the African American vote away from her, is married to her. Yes, an overwhelmingly large piece of my community is a molith!![]()
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
Obama distanced himself from the major candidates by never voting for the war.
This really hurt both Hillary and Edwards.
They had to back peddle big time, and Hillary completely screwed up by not really saying she had made a mistake.
Try to remember how things went on the time line.
The Hollywood crowd came out to endorse Obama. Oprah, Geffin, etc.
The hard left was against Hillary from the beginning, and Obama picked up the bid and momentum in Iowa.
This was not about race. Hillary's position on the Iraq war, her stilted delivery answering questions, etc. hurt her.
Obama didn't stumble until later into the campaign, and by that time it was too late.
Oh, and Dean was behind Obama, 4 sure.
This was not about race, it was about the Iraq war, and the anti Hillary movement.
If Obama was white, the same result would have been seen.