Obama - "Defund the Police" undermines Democrats

[Tsing Tao]

The far left movement pushed this slogan to defund the police and the GOP picked it up as a a political rally cry against that which played a role in losing House seats because that is felt more local than in a national election.

Biden did a so-so job of distancing himself from it because he could not afford to alienate any voters.

Now he needs to tell the squad to shut the fuck up because there will be no defunding of the police. REFORM is needed but not the way it is being pushed byt he squad.

With all due to respect to the squad they have no political experience and are jumping on populist movements for their own importance as much as Trump was. I doubt Ilhan or AOC really have any depth of understanding of their policies and how to actually work to affect change rather than spout out really stupid shit. I do not care how many degrees you have, if you let your mouth speak before your brain then you get the expectation that you are an idiot.

When teh Dems could have seized on the movement for real reforms and bringing in the police with them, they let radical BLM and protestors seize the message and spread the defund the police.

And that CHAZ or CHAD or FUCK whatever happened in Seattle is what happeneds when you let young idealists with no fucking clue about real life get control and run a movement. They fuck it up.

SPOT ON.

 

[Cuddles]

which played a role in losing House seats because that is felt more local than in a national election.

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I keep seeing this talking point yet see no polling to back it up.

A few lefties made some posters and fox etal ran with their fear mongering campaign. Most of this "defund the police" talk came from the right putting it on blast while the squad played defense trying to explain what "it meant".

And let's be honest, no one would be talking if "reform the police" was the slogan and without people getting rowdy. No one in America pays attention to peaceful demonstrations. What was the women's March about anyway?

 

[gwb-trading]

I keep seeing this talking point yet see no polling to back it up.

A few lefties made some posters and fox etal ran with their fear mongering campaign. Most of this "defund the police" talk came from the right putting it on blast while the squad played defense trying to explain what "it meant".

And let's be honest, no one would be talking if "reform the police" was the slogan and without people getting rowdy. No one in America pays attention to peaceful demonstrations. What was the women's March about anyway?

So you pushing violent demonstrations and divisive slogans now. Good to know.

 

[Cuddles]

So you pushing violent demonstrations and divisive slogans now. Good to know.

I'm being presidential

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

 

[Tsing Tao]

A few lefties made some posters and fox etal ran with their fear mongering campaign.

Some people did some things.

Progressive Dems fire back at Obama after he criticizes 'Defund the police' movement

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Obama made the comments during an interview with Peter Hamby on the Snapchat original political show "Good Luck America" that aired Wednesday morning.

"You lost a big audience the minute you say it, which makes it a lot less likely that you're actually going to get the changes you want done," Obama said. "The key is deciding, do you want to actually get something done, or do you want to feel good among the people you already agree with?"

His comments drew a sharp rebuke from several progressive Democrats.

"We lose people in the hands of police," Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., shot back. "It’s not a slogan but a policy demand. And centering the demand for equitable investments and budgets for communities across the country gets us progress and safety."...

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Most of this "defund the police" talk came from the right putting it on blast while the squad played defense trying to explain what "it meant".

Apparently the reason that a groundswell of west coast and other cities have actually passed substantial defund the police enactments is because they all just watch Fox News.

Yeh, that's it.

Idiot.

 

[Cuddles]

Some people did some things.

Progressive Dems fire back at Obama after he criticizes 'Defund the police' movement

...
Obama made the comments during an interview with Peter Hamby on the Snapchat original political show "Good Luck America" that aired Wednesday morning.

"You lost a big audience the minute you say it, which makes it a lot less likely that you're actually going to get the changes you want done," Obama said. "The key is deciding, do you want to actually get something done, or do you want to feel good among the people you already agree with?"

His comments drew a sharp rebuke from several progressive Democrats.

"We lose people in the hands of police," Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., shot back. "It’s not a slogan but a policy demand. And centering the demand for equitable investments and budgets for communities across the country gets us progress and safety."...

Problem?

 

[El OchoCinco]

I keep seeing this talking point yet see no polling to back it up.

A few lefties made some posters and fox etal ran with their fear mongering campaign. Most of this "defund the police" talk came from the right putting it on blast while the squad played defense trying to explain what "it meant".

And let's be honest, no one would be talking if "reform the police" was the slogan and without people getting rowdy. No one in America pays attention to peaceful demonstrations. What was the women's March about anyway?

In politics you dont get a chance to explain what you mean when a phrase goes viral and if the phrase is wrong or not what they meant they could have stopped repeating it and making it a mantra.

I can find tons of photos of the movement with their Defund the Police mantra taking center stage. The issue was reform. Might not be sexy but it is what is needed. Squad like AOC has no understanding of this.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Problem?

Not at all. I fully support the total defunding of police movement in Minnesota as a test case. I'm very interested in seeing how it will work out. So far, it seems like it is off to a wonderful start with car jacking up some 500+ %.

 

[Cuddles]

In politics you dont get a chance to explain what you mean when a phrase goes viral and if the phrase is wrong or not what they meant they could have stopped repeating it and making it a mantra.

I can find tons of photos of the movement with their Defund the Police mantra taking center stage. The issue was reform. Might not be sexy but it is what is needed. Squad like AOC has no understanding of this.

mountains out of molehills brosepho:

A Monmouth University Polling Institute poll from June 26-June 30, 2020, asked the question, "When you hear people say they want to 'Defund the Police' – do you think most of them really want to get rid of police departments or do you think most of them just want to change the way police departments operate?" 77% responded that the slogan means people want to "Change the way police operate", and 17% responded that the term means to "get rid of police".[60]