Obama Birth Certificate Issue Goes to Hawaii Supreme Court

Quote from FrankleMiDeer:

What a fucking idiot.

I've served my country. I've paid and will pay more taxes. And you're full of shit as a Christmas goose.

As to Vietnam war vet? Quit wearing that like such a badge of honor. It was a worse war than Iraq. Your nonsense doesn't impress me much. I respect these kids coming back from Iraq a hell of a lot more than some old chest-thumping bitch that doesn't remember the past and wishes to repeat it. Fuck you, asshole. Your service counts no more than mine did.

It was only AFTER I served my country that I became a non-interventionist. You're apparently not one who has thought much about how folks like you and I were used to forward other people's causes, and how little good we did in the process.

And as to that Vietnam thing that you're so proud of. Do you remember why we went over there? To stop the spread of communism. How did that work? Did it do anything more than kill millions of US and Asian people? Well, other than enrich the stockholders of Boeing, Lockheed-Martin and the others.

Your kind sickens me. Go back under your damned bridge, troll.

You know nothing of "my kind"... you presume much, and you presume wrong... and you're apparently not smart enough to offer a logical argument... you jibber.
 
Quote from oktiri:

He already did ! read the thread before you start commenting on the "tone."

Apparently NOT... otherwise it wouldn't still be pending..
 
Quote from gnome:

Apparently NOT... otherwise it wouldn't still be pending..
if you think so , fine. We do have a working judicial system here. the case will run its course, and if it has merits, it will prevail.
 
Quote from oktiri:

if you think so , fine. We do have a working judicial system here. the case will run its course, and if it has merits, it will prevail.
People get angry when facts don't agree with their wishes/hopes/opinions. I get angry when people question my patriotism because I fundamentally disagree with them. We all get angry at something.
 
I still think there would be a great possibility of the liberal congress amending the constitution even if the birth certificate was a fake.

That would without a doubt be a big foreshadow of how much the constitution will change in the coming years.
 
Quote from NeoRio1:

I still think there would be a great possibility of the liberal congress amending the constitution even if the birth certificate was a fake.

That would without a doubt be a big foreshadow of how much the constitution will change in the coming years.

An amendment to the Constitution needs to be ratified by 75% of the states..

More likely there would be a coverup from the Supreme Court. Should that coverup ever be uncovered, the Court would lose ALL credibility... and we Americans would have lost a great deal indeed.

Nobody is worth that, not even NObama.
 
All you guys need to relax.

The natural-born requirement is just a "technicality".

If that flies, just imagine the other "inconveniences" the Supreme Court Justices will render a technicality.

Gun ownership, Fairness Doctrine, Government spy program.

Endless potential.
 
Is this just a conspiracy theory on the right?
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"Now, wait a minute. What defines a conspiracy? Obama has only released a COPY or ABSTRACT, his short-form version of his certificate of birth, not the actual long-form document. When faced with the challenge in court by Mr. Berg, Obama's legal team instead blocked discovery and argued that Mr. Berg did not have standing to bring about the suit.

However. Mr. Berg has until Dec. 1 to provide a Writ of Certiorari to SCOTUS. So although the case was thrown out based on standing in the lower courts, Mr. Berg appealed and SCOTUS will hear what he has to say on Dec. 1. Some responsible reporting, please.

Now, for the fundamental questions I have for Mr. Obama. Let's suppose that Obama has a long form, vault copy of his birth certificate (which has not been seen yet). If, IF he has it, why is he wasting thousands, even millions of dollars to not show it? If he just wants to piss off the right and not show it on principle, he is blowing a lot of money to make his point. At the moment there are at least a dozen lawsuits in multiple states on this very issue. Each time, regardless of the outcome, Obama will have to pay for a white-shoe legal team to represent him in court (at least on the first day). That will add up to millions of dollars. At best, this is arrogant,irresponsible and wasteful on his part. Why not just show the document?

And BTW, the birth certificate is a gateway doc to other issues that have not been resolved. Did Obama have dual British/American citizenship at birth? Did he ever have Indonesian citizenship? Obama also went to Pakistan with two Pakistani friends while in college, when Americans were officially barred from visiting the country. Obama never mentioned his trip to Pakistan during the debates, when he was seen as being weaker on foreign policy. Surely a three-week trip to Pakistan would merit some sort of mention, at least to show he is well-schooled on the subject. But no. He mentioned it one time during a speech at a fundraiser in San Francisco. Not in his books or otherwise. What is going on there? Did he use an Indonesian passport to enter the country? Why do his school documents have him marked as an Indonesian citizen? These are the questions -- and there are more -- that question whether he is qualified as POTUS.

This is not a conspiracy at the moment. A conspiracy is something you see with your own eyes and still do not believe it (hence the moon landing). No one in the mainstream press or otherwise has seen Obama's long-form document. Until the courts rule that he is a citizen and his birth certificate materializes and passes muster, these are normal, healthy questions our next POTUS should answer. " ----bbatson wrote on the 'internet'
 
Quote from fhl:

Is this just a conspiracy theory on the right?
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"Now, wait a minute. What defines a conspiracy? Obama has only released a COPY or ABSTRACT, his short-form version of his certificate of birth, not the actual long-form document. When faced with the challenge in court by Mr. Berg, Obama's legal team instead blocked discovery and argued that Mr. Berg did not have standing to bring about the suit.

However. Mr. Berg has until Dec. 1 to provide a Writ of Certiorari to SCOTUS. So although the case was thrown out based on standing in the lower courts, Mr. Berg appealed and SCOTUS will hear what he has to say on Dec. 1. Some responsible reporting, please.

Now, for the fundamental questions I have for Mr. Obama. Let's suppose that Obama has a long form, vault copy of his birth certificate (which has not been seen yet). If, IF he has it, why is he wasting thousands, even millions of dollars to not show it? If he just wants to piss off the right and not show it on principle, he is blowing a lot of money to make his point. At the moment there are at least a dozen lawsuits in multiple states on this very issue. Each time, regardless of the outcome, Obama will have to pay for a white-shoe legal team to represent him in court (at least on the first day). That will add up to millions of dollars. At best, this is arrogant,irresponsible and wasteful on his part. Why not just show the document?

And BTW, the birth certificate is a gateway doc to other issues that have not been resolved. Did Obama have dual British/American citizenship at birth? Did he ever have Indonesian citizenship? Obama also went to Pakistan with two Pakistani friends while in college, when Americans were officially barred from visiting the country. Obama never mentioned his trip to Pakistan during the debates, when he was seen as being weaker on foreign policy. Surely a three-week trip to Pakistan would merit some sort of mention, at least to show he is well-schooled on the subject. But no. He mentioned it one time during a speech at a fundraiser in San Francisco. Not in his books or otherwise. What is going on there? Did he use an Indonesian passport to enter the country? Why do his school documents have him marked as an Indonesian citizen? These are the questions -- and there are more -- that question whether he is qualified as POTUS.

This is not a conspiracy at the moment. A conspiracy is something you see with your own eyes and still do not believe it (hence the moon landing). No one in the mainstream press or otherwise has seen Obama's long-form document. Until the courts rule that he is a citizen and his birth certificate materializes and passes muster, these are normal, healthy questions our next POTUS should answer. " ----bbatson wrote on the 'internet'

The NObamabots are screaming "conspiracy against NObama"... yet, the more he refuses to comply the more it smells of a consipiracy by the DemoCraps to elect a man to POTUS whom they KNOW is NOT QUALIFIED.

If NObama has not satisfactorily complied by Jan 20, let's hope the SCOTUS BLOCKS the inauguration until compliance. If not, perhaps there SHOULD be riots... lead by those of us who believe the Constitution is bigger than any one man... regardless of whether he promised candy.
 
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