Obama and the Minister

[client#9]

Quote from TGregg:

I don't see what the big deal is. Rev. Wright is espousing the mainstream left's views. It's not news in any sense of the word. Any reader of this forum understands that.

Just in case some losers try to say this guy is not mainstream (the common tactic for those who are not proud of their viewpoints), Rev. Wright is close to Barak Hussein Obama:



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080315/ap_on_el_pr/obama_pastor
This isn't surprising at all, not one little bit. Well, I guess you could say it's surprising to see all the evidence for it, but this is exactly what the mainstream democrats have believed for a long time.

from above:
"Just in case some losers try to say this guy is not mainstream"

That is exactly what the cnn obama apologists tried to do on Anderson Cooper tonight. They tried to claim that it is out of the mainstream, while simultaneously claiming that blacks and black churches think much differently than whites, all but saying it is exactly what the mainstream think, negating their lead assertion.

It's kind of fun to watch a campaign and a party implode in front of your very eyes.

 

[saxon]

Mr. Obama said, "I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan. I assume that Trumpet magazine made its own decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-offenders, but it is not a decision with which I agree."

What part of that statement is unclear? Seems pretty clear to me.

Here's another statement:

I ask you tonight...to judge me [on my words and on my record], instead of judging me on the basis of these pamphlets and publications we all have seen that carefully select quotations out of context from the statements of Catholic church leaders, usually in other countries, frequently in other centuries, and always omitting, of course, the statement of the American Bishops in 1948, which strongly endorsed church-state separation, and which more nearly reflects the views of almost every American Catholic.

I do not consider these other quotations binding upon my public acts. Why should you?

-- John F. Kennedy

 

[Gord]

Quote from saxon:

What part of that statement is unclear? Seems pretty clear to me.

Here's another statement:

How can one choose to affiliate oneself with an organization for twenty years that preaches hate, and then say you have never supported that message? If Obama did not agree with the message of hate preached at that church, he would have left the first time he heard it. The fact he stayed tells me he has aproved of that message for twenty years.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Obama's damage control, dutifully repeated as fact by CNN, is that this was basically a one-time deal for this pastor and Obama had never been exposed to this side of him. Really?

I think it's pretty clear that if John McCain had attended an all white church run by a pastor who blamed blacks for everything wrong in the white community, who blamed the US for 9/11, who openly sided with the enemies of America, who praised adn honored David Duke and who advocated white power and white separatism, the media would have no trouble connecting the dots. Obama is not some illiterate who could be taken in by a smooth-talking preacher. He was Editor in Chief of the Harvard Law Review. His wife was an Ivy League-educated attorney at Chicago's biggest law firm.

It's not like Obama has a lifetime of public policy achievements we can look on to get a measure of the man. Basically, we are being asked to accept on faith his claims to be a new type of post-partisanship and post-racial politician, based at most on a few well-delivered speeches and a cult-like following.

Under the circumstances it is entirely appropriate to look into what he himself has described as an important influence on him and see if it matches up with his public assertions. So far, it has not only not matched who he would claim to be, but has raised legitimate fears that he harbors private views that are dangerous and far out of the mainstream. It doesn't help matters that his financial backer Rezko is on trial for typical chicago corruption or that he has never adequately explained his connection to former terrorist bill Ayers.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from Gord:

How can one choose to affiliate oneself with an organization for twenty years that preaches hate, and then say you have never supported that message? If Obama did not agree with the message of hate preached at that church, he would have left the first time he heard it. The fact he stayed tells me he has aproved of that message for twenty years.

That's the problem I have with his explanation. Obama never had a problem with anything this pastor said or did until it became national news. No doubt Obama was helped in local black politics by his connection with this pastor. Now that it has become controversial, he wants to pretend that he wasn't aware that his pastor for 20 years was a black racist who clearly hates whites, admires Loius Farrakhan and despises the US.

Michelle Obama's statement about being proud of the US "for the first time in her adult life" becomes far more meaningful now as well. It wasn't just an ill-considered slip of the tongue taken out of context. It was an accurate reflection of their world view, as reflected by the church they attended for 20 years.

Obama now seems to be the very opposite of the post-racial candidate he would have us believe he is. It is hard not to see him as the racial version of Eliot Spitzer, privately devoted to the evil he publicly denounces.

 

[Gord]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Obama now seems to be the very opposite of the post-racial candidate he would have us believe he is. It is hard not to see him as the racial version of Eliot Spitzer, privately devoted to the evil he publicly denounces.

That is a great analogy. Self-righteous on the outside - tainted on the inside.

Remember the liberal response to George Bush just for making a speech at Bob Jones University. The media and the Democrats went apoplectic. Where is their outrage at Barak Obama?

Typical liberals, they are all Eliot Spitzers - demanding righteousness from others, and excusing their own lapses...

 

[murray t turtle]

Quote from SteveD:

Both branches of Congress open with a prayer....Supreme Court opens with a prayer.....President and all others sworn into office with a Bible.....


That video of the black racist preacher is the nail in Obama's asperations for President.....

Stick a fork in him....he's done.....he only disavowed it AFTER it became public.....

McCain is next Pres.....Hillary can only muster maybe 35% of vote, if she lucky....


SteveD

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SteveD;
Good points about that black racist preacher;
strange he likes the current Iranian leaders & as Hal Lindsey noted, Communists/liberation theology.

Frankly i never liked this concerning - Senator Hiillary/Obama;
thier disrespect & track record against the 2nd ammendment.

And neither seems to grasp ,about 97% of XOM is owned by individuals /institutions. Only about 3% owned by Exxon execs.

Now the left seems all upset because Pastor Rod Parsley spoke at a Mr. McCain rally & called ''Islam an antichrist religion, based on deception'' FOX news.com,today

 

[TGregg]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I think it's pretty clear that if John McCain had attended an all white church run by a pastor who blamed blacks for everything wrong in the white community, who blamed the US for 9/11, who openly sided with the enemies of America, who praised adn honored David Duke and who advocated white power and white separatism, the media would have no trouble connecting the dots.

Could you imagine if Newt Gingrich were still a Senator, running for POTUS and something like this had happened? The MSM would be screaming 24x7 not just for him to drop out of the race, but to resign from the Senate. And a lot of us would be asking for that as well.

But not the left. That's because they agree with it. This is the viewpoint of the mainstream democrats.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

"I think it's pretty clear that if John McCain had attended an all white church...

Sounds like you have never been to Scottsdale...

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Obama's damage control, dutifully repeated as fact by CNN, is that this was basically a one-time deal for this pastor and Obama had never been exposed to this side of him. Really?

I think it's pretty clear that if John McCain had attended an all white church run by a pastor who blamed blacks for everything wrong in the white community, who blamed the US for 9/11, who openly sided with the enemies of America, who praised adn honored David Duke and who advocated white power and white separatism, the media would have no trouble connecting the dots. Obama is not some illiterate who could be taken in by a smooth-talking preacher. He was Editor in Chief of the Harvard Law Review. His wife was an Ivy League-educated attorney at Chicago's biggest law firm.

It's not like Obama has a lifetime of public policy achievements we can look on to get a measure of the man. Basically, we are being asked to accept on faith his claims to be a new type of post-partisanship and post-racial politician, based at most on a few well-delivered speeches and a cult-like following.

Under the circumstances it is entirely appropriate to look into what he himself has described as an important influence on him and see if it matches up with his public assertions. So far, it has not only not matched who he would claim to be, but has raised legitimate fears that he harbors private views that are dangerous and far out of the mainstream. It doesn't help matters that his financial backer Rezko is on trial for typical chicago corruption or that he has never adequately explained his connection to former terrorist bill Ayers.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

"This is the viewpoint of the mainstream democrats."

The likes of you think Rush Limfat, Mann Coulter, Sean Hammity, Michael Savage are mainstream republicans...

Of course, all of the above morons did nothing but attack the people's choice of the republican party, John McCain.

Too funny watching you far right wing klowns make shit up...

Quote from TGregg:

Could you imagine if Newt Gingrich were still a Senator, running for POTUS and something like this had happened? The MSM would be screaming 24x7 not just for him to drop out of the race, but to resign from the Senate. And a lot of us would be asking for that as well.

But not the left. That's because they agree with it. This is the viewpoint of the mainstream democrats.