Obama Admits He Has No Intention Of Closing Our Borders

CaptainObvious · Jul 8, 2010

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I agree with you in part, but I think you're way underestimating the degree of difficulty in what you're proposing. First, the anchor baby concept is not a law that can be overturned by congress. It's a Supreme Court decision that will either have to be reversed by the Court or reversed by a Constitutional Amendment. I do agree with you that the current interpretation is wrong and not what was intended, but changing it will be damn hard.

As for providing services to illegals, you might recall that California passed a referendum a few years back mandating exactly that. No freebies for illegals. A federal judge promptly declared it unconstitutional and California did not appeal, obviously because the democrats then in charge(Gray Dvais administration) agreed with the decision. That decision is not binding on other states however, and there are ways California could get around it if they wanted to. For example, they could pass another referendum, just like Chicago( and Washington, DC) did with their gun laws that were declared unconstitutional.

Yes, it would be difficult, if not impossible to do anything of substance about the Anchor baby law. I still think it's an issue that needs to be addressed in a very public way. I would guess the majority of Americans do not understand how the 14th Amendment is being perverted to allow this Anchor baby crap to continue. We need to call out those that support it, and give the people an opportunity to vote them out.
If we do not take away the incentives to come here, they'll keep coming. The other alternative is gunning them down at the border. Much as I'd like to see that we all know it ain't going to happen.
This situation is what has me so negative about our country. 20 million illegals and more coming every day is simply not sustainable, and will create a level of poverty accross the board for tens of millions of Americans, the like of which we have never experienced. It will make the Great Depression look like a cake walk.

nutmeg · Jul 8, 2010

This may be lame but suppose France started teaching German in all of it's schools. Everywhere you went in France you'd have two points of information. One in French, then right alongside, German.

Frankly if I was French, I'd be worried.

Do any countries do this, except us?

Embrace a foreign language alongside English.

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This I'm sure is by design.

Scataphagos · Jul 8, 2010

Quote from Mav88:

"... No nation can and does tolerate illegal immigration, that's why it is regulated. There is no reason at all why the United States should tolerate it. If we allowed in every person in the world who wanted a better life, it would destroy us.

The primary reason illegals from across the Southern border want to "come to America" is to take advantage of our social services... Americans have, in one way or another... "paid into the system"... either voluntarily or against our will...

In any event, AMERICANS HAVE PAID FOR OUR SOCIAL SAFETY NET... illegals want to take advantage of our social net without ever having paid into it.. they're not US citizens.. they're not "entitled".

That the Federal Government even allows such things is DESPICABLE! All who advocate for illegal immigrants to abuse the US system SHOULD BE SHOT AS A TRAITOR... !

And Mexico President Caleron... He's a total JERK.. pissn' and moanin' about our not wanting to provide benefits to his illegals. America has been FOOLISH... having given so much to so many that we can't even take care of our own...WE'RE EFFIN BROKE BECAUSE OF IT!!

1. WE SHOULD SEAL THE BORDER..

2. WE SHOULD SHOOT TRESPASSERS ON SIGHT!!!

That would soon put an end to this Obama-supported BULLSHIT!

And if Americans had any BALLS.. they'd impeach that SOB OBAMA, TAR AND FEATHER HIM, AND RUN HIM OUT OF TOWN ON A RAIL!!!!!

CaptainObvious · Jul 8, 2010

Quote from Scataphagos:

The primary reason illegals from across the Southern border want to "come to America" is to take advantage of our social services... Americans have, in one way or another... "paid into the system"... either voluntarily or against our will...

In any event, AMERICANS HAVE PAID FOR OUR SOCIAL SAFETY NET... illegals want to take advantage of our social net without ever having paid into it.. they're not US citizens.. they're not "entitled".

That the Federal Government even allows such things is DESPICABLE! All who advocate for illegal immigrants to abuse the US system SHOULD BE SHOT AS A TRAITOR... !

And Mexico President Caleron... He's a total JERK.. pissn' and moanin' about our not wanting to provide benefits to his illegals. America has been FOOLISH... having given so much to so many that we can't even take care of our own...WE'RE EFFIN BROKE BECAUSE OF IT!!

1. WE SHOULD SEAL THE BORDER..

2. WE SHOULD SHOOT TRESPASSERS ON SIGHT!!!

That would soon put an end to this Obama-supported BULLSHIT!

And if Americans had any BALLS.. they'd impeach that SOB OBAMA, TAR AND FEATHER HIM, AND RUN HIM OUT OF TOWN ON A RAIL!!!!!

HooRah! Agree with it all, even though you have me on ignore for calling Beck a radical. Radical is what we need. My opinion he's not radical enough, and his croc tears bore me. Time for crying is over. It's time to get angry, REAL ANGRY! Like it or not, a fight is coming, and tears won't win the battle.

Mav88 · Jul 8, 2010

The kneejerk folks like sunshine, gabby, and ....... and their kind have never put forth the obvious conclusion to their thinking- simply dispose with immigration laws. If open borders are so wise, then why have immigation laws at all?

Most of us know how stupid that is, most americans don't want the illegals here, yet republicans lack the will or the guts to do something. We need a new conservative party. Republicans are incompetant.

achilles28 · Jul 8, 2010

Quote from Scataphagos:

1. Build "The Fence"... secure the border.

2. Round up all illegals and deport them... first recording fingerprints and DNA. (If later recaptured on American soil, imprisoned for 2-5 years.) Deny "social benefits" to all illegals.

3. Station 10,000 troops near border with orders to "shoot on sight", those who step foot on American soil. Soon, this policy will become a deterrent.

Our official "Southern border" policy is not only dangerous to American citizens, it's stupid!!

Agreed. Even mainstream Republicans think this is all fun and games. That border security is a "non-issue". I know Middle Eastern guys that snuck through the US-Mexican border to get to Canada. If they're doing it, what makes anyone think Al Queda isn't? And that's the elephant in the room. The national security apparatus has known this since Sept 12th, 2001. Why haven't they screamed bloody murder? Why didn't Bush or Obama scream bloody murder? Because they want another 911. That's why. They're courting disaster, and they know it. It's a conspiracy of non-action. Look the other way and hope somebody blows shit up.

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Scataphagos · Jul 8, 2010

Quote from achilles28:

Agreed. Why didn't Bush or Obama scream bloody murder? Because they want another 911. That's why. They're courting disaster, and they know it. It's a conspiracy of non-action. Look the other way and hope somebody blows shit up.

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I don't think that's it. More likely, both Bush and Obama were loathe to secure the souther border in the fear doing so would piss off the Latino vote and send them to the "other side". Neither wants to risk THAT. Despicable!!

Arizona and the other border states should call out the Guard and have them SHOOT TRESPASSERS ON SIGHT. Try not to kill them (at least, at first).. just shoot 'em in the leg. Then send them back home. Soon, illegals would stop violating the border...

achilles28 · Jul 8, 2010

Quote from Scataphagos:

I don't think that's it. More likely, both Bush and Obama were loathe to secure the souther border in the fear doing so would piss off the Latino vote and send them to the "other side". Neither wants to risk THAT. Despicable!!

Arizona and the other border states should call out the Guard and have them SHOOT TRESPASSERS ON SIGHT. Try not to kill them (at least, at first).. just shoot 'em in the leg. Then send them back home. Soon, illegals would stop violating the border...

Let's say you're right. Two consecutive American Presidents willfully put the entire Country at risk of another 911 - or worse - for votes. How does that make them any less criminal? They're still jeopardizing the entire Country, with sound mind and complete forethought.

Scataphagos · Jul 8, 2010

Quote from achilles28:

Let's say you're right. Two consecutive American Presidents willfully put the entire Country at risk of another 911 - or worse - for votes. How does that make them any less criminal? They're still jeopardizing the entire Country, with sound mind and complete forethought.

It doesn't make them "less criminal". Clinton, too... all are guilty of the same... Congress and the President take an "oath of office"... which includes "living up the the Constitution and defending the USA against all enemies, foreign and domestic"... We all see they basically ignore all of that. Don't those BLATANT breach of promises, lies, and utter disregard for the Constitution and the welfare of the American citizenry make you as angry as it does me? :mad:

In addition to "illegals looking for work and taking jobs from American citizens"... there are drug mules and cartel muscle with assault weapons to protect drug cargo... not to mention some Middle Eastern terrorists types who can just stroll across the border... ALL of that should be stopped.

Arnie · Jul 8, 2010

If terrorists were crossing the border and burning down black churches, or killing gays, the border would be secured in a matter of days.

PS: nothing against gays or blacks, it just illustrates where this administrations priorities are.