Obama administration is an abject failure?

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from jem:

the tea party is about decreasing govt spending and waste.

the tea party is one of the most educated groups in america... that is why the dems target them. The party of the lies about the economy despises educated people who earn a living.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/politics/15poll.html?_r=0

Tea Party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public, and are no more or less afraid of falling into a lower socioeconomic class, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

You posted this to me, but I already know this. Tell the others. They are the ones mistaking fringe elements of the right for the Tea Party, because the media told them so.

 

[jem]

I was supporting your point... but I deleted your quote anyway.

Quote from Tsing Tao:

You posted this to me, but I already know this. Tell the others. They are the ones mistaking fringe elements of the right for the Tea Party, because the media told them so.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from jem:

I was supporting your point... but I deleted your quote anyway.

Ah, apologies. I thought you were trying to debate something I had posted.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

It's easy to claim the $1 vs $10 argument is extreme when no one on the left was truly willing to cut spending $10 in the first place.

Even if that were true it's the wrong answer during a debate.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

Even if that were true it's the wrong answer during a debate.

Yep. Too complex an issue for the people of this country to grasp. Agree.

 

[futurecurrents]

The Tea Party

15 Non-negotiable Core Beliefs

1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.
2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.
3. A strong military is essential.
4. Special interests must be eliminated.
5. Gun ownership is sacred.
6. Government must be downsized.
7. The national budget must be balanced.
8. Deficit spending must end.
9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.
10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.
11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.
12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.
13. Intrusive government must be stopped.
14. English as our core language is required.
15. Traditional family values are encouraged.


http://www.teaparty.org/about-us/


Who could be against those things? Especially the gun ownership is sacred thing. And I don't think they are being strong enough about the traditional family values....those that don't agree with them should be taken out and shot with the sacred guns.

 

[futurecurrents]

Actually what's more telling is the core beliefs they don't list.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Yep. Too complex an issue for the people of this country to grasp. Agree.

Sour grapes.

 

[PiggyBank]

Quote from futurecurrents:

The Tea Party

15 Non-negotiable Core Beliefs

1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.
2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.
3. A strong military is essential.
4. Special interests must be eliminated.
5. Gun ownership is sacred.
6. Government must be downsized.
7. The national budget must be balanced.
8. Deficit spending must end.
9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.
10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.
11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.
12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.
13. Intrusive government must be stopped.
14. English as our core language is required.
15. Traditional family values are encouraged.


http://www.teaparty.org/about-us/


Who could be against those things? Especially the gun ownership is sacred thing. And I don't think they are being strong enough about the traditional family values....those that don't agree with them should be taken out and shot with the sacred guns.

If YOU are against these things.. to me that makes you the poster boy of a radical, in the USA. Let's see the country has been around for 200+ years and many of these things have in fact been tradition here since even before the union was officially formed. Especially the two you seem to have taken personal issue with.

Encouraging traditional family values DOES NOT equate to: "And I don't think they are being strong enough about the traditional family values....those that don't agree with them should be taken out and shot with the sacred guns." But then you know that and are trying to dramatize your 'point' like an irrational bitch, aren't you?

Quote from futurecurrents:

Actually what's more telling is the core beliefs they don't list.

Of course they are more telling, since you get to make them up.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from PiggyBank:

If YOU are against these things.. to me that makes you the poster boy of a radical, in the USA. Let's see the country has been around for 200+ years and many of these things have in fact been tradition here since even before the union was officially formed. Especially the two you seem to have taken personal issue with.

Encouraging traditional family values are DOES NOT equate to: "And I don't think they are being strong enough about the traditional family values....those that don't agree with them should be taken out and shot with the sacred guns." But then you know that and are trying to dramatize your 'point' like an irrational bitch, aren't you?

Of course they are more telling, since you get to make them up.

Many of those are uninformed. Some are unrealistic. One or two are so vague (a strong military is essential) who could disagree?