Nunes does 180: Trump Team under surveillance. Not connected to Russia. All names revealed.

This is big. wow. Bringing down the house. Obama's fucked.

This is it. Trump better man up now. Lets see those teeth. He's flexing against China. Now it's time to after the real traitors to this Democratic Republic.
 
JamesL said:
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Now, according to Fox News sources, congressional investigators expect that a potential “smoking gun” from the NSA establishing that the Obama administration spied on the Trump transition team, and possibly the president-elect himself, will be produced to the House Intelligence Committee as early as tomorrow.

The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.

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Offense is the best defense, but this is a new low of truth twisting. So, the main story now is that foreign targets were spied on specifically to allow spying on trump. I shake in disbelief. This is so pathetic that I have no words.
 
RedDuke said:
Offense is the best defense, but this is a new low of truth twisting. So, the main story now is that foreign targets were spied on specifically to allow spying on trump. I shake in disbelief. This is so pathetic that I have no words.
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What are you shaking in disbelief at? Certainly if the Obama administration misused surveillance authority to probe an opposition presidential candidate, not to mention scores of other political and judicial figures, you would have to concede that it was monumental misconduct that should land people in prison.
 
AAAintheBeltway said:
What are you shaking in disbelief at? Certainly if the Obama administration misused surveillance authority to probe an opposition presidential candidate, not to mention scores of other political and judicial figures, you would have to concede that it was monumental misconduct that should land people in prison.
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Yes, if the Obama administration misused surveillance authority to probe an opposition presidential candidate this is a felony (not a lawyer here but it seems highly illegal).

This is exactly what Trump twitted about. However, not a shred of evidence was produced to support it. Now this incidental intel is being used to cover Trump ass so he does not look like a total fool. But it could bite back in a very hard way.
 
So at worse, we have the exact same amount of evidence that Obama or his underlings illegally surveilled Trump as we have that Trump was involved in some nefarious conspiracy with Putin?
 
AAAintheBeltway said:
So at worse, we have the exact same amount of evidence that Obama or his underlings illegally surveilled Trump as we have that Trump was involved in some nefarious conspiracy with Putin?
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We understand that the NSA collects all electronic communications. What we know very little about are the details of how it is decided and who decides which of billions of communications will be archived, decoded and looked at by human eyes. Those activities are going on right now under Trump, just as they did under Bush and Obama. Any suggestion that Obama was personally involved with selecting Donald Trump's communications to look at, without any evidence of such, is absurd. I think President Trump, should step back, stop Tweeting, sit down, and try to act like a grown-up.

A childish attempt to parlay this continuous, all encompassing NSA surveillance into a justification for President Trump's hopelessly misguided Tweets is absurd. That doesn't preclude, of course, the President's Tweets from acquiring a modicum of street credibility among his low-information voters. Sadly, Tweets of the 'gee whiz Obama is wiretapping me' variety are just more of seemingly endless indications that our President is a scoundrel.
 
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A childish attempt to parlay this continuous, all encompassing NSA surveillance into a justification for President Trump's hopelessly misguided Tweets is absurd. ...
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Thank you. Could not have said it better myself!!!!! Absurd is the right word. I assume that most people on this forum are intelligent, and yet they just refuse to acknowledge this and yell Trump is right, he was wiretapped. Just mind boggling.
 
RedDuke said:
Offense is the best defense, but this is a new low of truth twisting. So, the main story now is that foreign targets were spied on specifically to allow spying on trump. I shake in disbelief. This is so pathetic that I have no words.
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Hail marys, death throws as the realization sinks in that they elected a guy now under FBI investigation.
 
The head of the Intel Committee said he personally viewed the evidence. Not one of the Dems sitting on the Committee have protested his analysis publicly. And you contest this as hearsay? That's not rational. Considering the background we have on the NSA, which is far more then Piezoe thinks, if he would bother to use the search engine for a couple hours.
 
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