Nuclear Fail by Obama - Russian bombers in CA

[jem]

No just like the sequester only caused the loss of one job... you cut the military budget in the right places and have no impact.

Obama appear weak because he made very poor decisions.

So the reason we appear weak to the russkies is because of Obama's spending cuts?

 

[Lucrum]

So the reason we appear weak to the russkies is because of Obama's spending cuts?

Only partly, the primary reason is that Odumbo is a spineless girly man.

 

[Ricter]

No just like the sequester only caused the loss of one job... you cut the military budget in the right places and have no impact.

Obama appear weak because he made very poor decisions.

Poor indeed! He has taken his portion of the budget, the discretionary part, and made the US weak because of his out of control spending increases (which he "fought tooth and nail for", and which "debased the dollar"), and also because of his out of control spending cuts, which have "decimated" the military.

You can't make this shit up!

 

[Pippi436]

I agree with JJ. Putin would be sitting with his head-down in the corner had our mil not been decimated.

The US still outspends Russia like 8x in military expenditures - even after the cuts. The Ukraine situation has little to do with it, neither with the US in general.

More insight can be had here - its from a Yale history professor. His book about Ukraine ('Bloodlands') is also very good.

 

[jem]

what are you talking about? he cut spending? are is he planning to cut spending?

not even you could pretend Obama has made the world a safer place?

Poor indeed! He has taken his portion of the budget, the discretionary part, and made the US weak because of his out of control spending increases (which he "fought tooth and nail for", and which "debased the dollar"), and also because of his out of control spending cuts, which have "decimated" the military.

You can't make this shit up!

 

[Ricter]

what are you talking about? he cut spending? are is he planning to cut spending?

not even you could pretend Obama has made the world a safer place?

Which way would you like to believe it, Obama has been a net spender, or a net cutter?

 

[jem]

umm alex... I will take reality for 1000.

Which way would you like to believe it, Obama has been a net spender, or a net cutter?

 

[Trader666]

I could be mistaken, but wasn't the statement about the Russian flights made by the Commander, Pacific Air Forces, rather than the Obama administration spokesperson? Is your opinion of your nation's four star generals so low that you believe that they're, essentially, politicians working for whoever happens to be running the show at any given time? If that's the case, you got bigger things to worry about than Russian bombers, I daresay.

Yes. But in fairness to General Carlisle, it may very well be that Russian bombers did not enter U.S. airspace. However if they did and it was classified, I'd need to see his exact wording and the exact wording of what he was asked (if he was responding to a question). Also in fairness I know of no reason to doubt Carlisle's integrity specifically... however, senior officers have absolutely been politicized and in general I trust them about as far as I can spit them.

In addition to the points Lucrum's made, I present James R. Clapper Jr., Lieutenant General (Retired), United States Air Force.

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Clapper was only a three star you say? Well how about the service chiefs -- the senior four stars?
Top brass claims personnel costs are swamping DoD, but budget figures say otherwise
http://www.armytimes.com/article/20131124/BENEFITS02/311240019

Of course, the above is a lie of a different nature but having integrity is like being pregnant -- either you do/are or not. And it is a lie because they've been corrected on it before. I can document that if you want to get into the weeds.

If that's not enough, there's an ingrained culture of corruption in the Pentagon that obviously couldn't exist without senior "leaders" being complicit.
Special Report: The Pentagon's doctored ledgers conceal epic waste
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/18/us-usa-pentagon-waste-specialreport-idUSBRE9AH0LQ20131118

 

[jem]

trader666 posted this on another thread.


Pentagon: Russian fighter intercepted US plane

By ROBERT BURNS
3 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A Russian fighter jet intercepted an American reconnaissance plane in international airspace over the Pacific in late April, prompting top officials to complain to senior Russian military officials, a Pentagon spokesman said Tuesday.

Army Col. Steve Warren, the spokesman, said the Russian Su-27 fighter flew across the nose of the U.S. Air Force RC-135U aircraft, coming within about 100 feet (30 meters), while in international airspace over the Sea of Okhotsk.

Warren said the U.S. plane did not take any evasive measures. The Russian pilot maneuvered his jet in a way that exposed its belly to the American crew, he said, apparently as a way of showing that it was armed. Warren said there was no radio communication between the two planes' crews.

He said Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, both raised the matter later with their Russian counterparts.

Warren said he could not explain why the incident, which happened April 23, was not made public earlier. It is the latest source of concern for U.S. officials since a heightening of U.S.-Russian tensions following Moscow's intervention in Ukraine. In mid-April a Russian Su-24 fighter made low-level passes over a U.S. Navy ship in the Black Sea.

An RC-135U is a highly specialized reconnaissance plane known as "Combat Sent." There are only two such planes in the U.S. Air Force; both are assigned to the 55th Wing at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska. Their crews are from the 45th Reconnaissance Squadron and the 97th Intelligence Squadron of the Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Agency.

The "Combat Sent" aircraft are equipped with communications gear designed to locate and identify foreign military radar signals on land, at sea and in the air. The crew is composed of two pilots, one navigator, two airborne systems engineers, at least 10 electronic warfare officers and six or more technical and other specialists.

http://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-russi...-politics.html

 

[Trader666]

Putin looks east to bolster ties with North Korea
TOKYO — Angry with the West’s response over Ukraine and eager to diversify its options, Russia is moving rapidly to bolster ties with North Korea in a diplomatic nose-thumbing that could complicate the U.S.-led effort to squeeze Pyongyang into giving up its nuclear weapons program.

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