NSA's goal is elimination of individual privacy worldwide

[tomdavis]

Quote from Ricter:

Sorry, but if you insist on this absolutist purity, which means thousands could be killed because we won't do any listening because we had no probable cause to justify that listening, then you are going to have very, very few Americans on your side.

Actually, 72% of Americans are on my side.

Record High in U.S. Say Big Government Greatest Threat

http://www.gallup.com/poll/166535/r...syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All

 

[Ricter]

Quote from tomdavis:

Actually, 72% of Americans are on my side.

Record High in U.S. Say Big Government Greatest Threat

http://www.gallup.com/poll/166535/r...syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All

This does not contradict the premise that few think the government should not be doing any listening. And the sharp dip in 2001, no doubt thanks to 9/11, supports the point: most people are willing to trade some freedom for some safety.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Ricter:

...most people are willing to trade some freedom for some safety.

Yeah, they're called sheep.

 

[Wallet]

Quote from Ricter:

On the premise "guns don't kill people, people kill people", to prevent catastrophe of the terroristic kind we need to get "inside people's heads" to find the bad characters before they act out. So we need to "snoop". The reduction of mass killings is good, the loss of privacy is bad, but so long as you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.

; )

I don't think anyone could stick their head farther up their own ass....

I don't like the way you think, or what you say.... off to indoctrination camp. There's a reason why the founding fathers put limits for government... they just risked their lives getting rid of the exact same thing you just endorsed.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Wallet:

I don't think anyone could stick their heads farther up their own ass....

I don't like the way you think, or what you say.... off to indoctrination camp. There's a reason why the founding fathers put limits for government... they just risked their lives getting rid of the exact same thing you just endorsed.

Ricter isn't very bright. He's a proponent of all things big government. He's one of those dolts that needs to be told how to live every aspect of his life by someone in Washington.

 

[Wallet]

Quote from Lucrum:

Ricter isn't very bright. He's a proponent of all things big government. He's one of those dolts that needs to be told how to live every aspect of his life by someone in Washington.

It has to be some kind of sick humor or attempt to rile everyone because no one can be that naive or stupid.

 

[FireWalker]

That is already complete. The NSA just wants their own bugs into the system that is already bugged.

Every text, email, post, conversation is already traceable by many.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Wallet:

I don't think anyone could stick their head farther up their own ass....

I don't like the way you think, or what you say.... off to indoctrination camp. There's a reason why the founding fathers put limits for government... they just risked their lives getting rid of the exact same thing you just endorsed.

They created limits for government, they did not eliminate government. Clearly they believed in some control. Probably for stupid people, like you. : )

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Ricter:

They created limits for government...

Virtually all of which have been exceeded, and with your approval no less.

 

[Scataphagos]

Quote from tomdavis:

We should NEVER "compromise" our Constitutional rights. That's how a democracy turns into a police state.

Restated.... "We should never HAVE ALLOWED POLITICIANS to compromise our Constitutional rights..."

Had we not, we likely would not have turned into a police state... at least not yet.