NSA's goal is elimination of individual privacy worldwide

Just read an article about DHS and CBP making large numbers of warrant-less stops and searches of private US registered aircraft making only domestic flights.
There was No probable cause in any of the cases.
So far none of the searches have turned up anything illegal.
 
On the premise "guns don't kill people, people kill people", to prevent catastrophe of the terroristic kind we need to get "inside people's heads" to find the bad characters before they act out. So we need to "snoop". The reduction of mass killings is good, the loss of privacy is bad, but so long as you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.

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Quote from Ricter:

On the premise "guns don't kill people, people kill people", to prevent catastrophe of the terroristic kind we need to get "inside people's heads" to find the bad characters before they act out. So we need to "snoop". The reduction of mass killings is good, the loss of privacy is bad, but so long as you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.

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...and if the spying was happening on Bush's watch you would have a function key to release a screaming, ranting message about Bush being like Hitler...
 
Quote from Fractals 'R Us:

...and if the spying was happening on Bush's watch you would have a function key to release a screaming, ranting message about Bush being like Hitler...
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When it comes to this issue, that's not true. I don't like the snooping at all, but I do see it as a natural consequence of the character-based mode of murder and terror control.
 
Quote from Ricter:

On the premise "guns don't kill people, people kill people", to prevent catastrophe of the terroristic kind we need to get "inside people's heads" to find the bad characters before they act out. So we need to "snoop". The reduction of mass killings is good, the loss of privacy is bad, but so long as you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.

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If I understand you correctly, you're saying there's no such thing as a "reasonable expectation of privacy."
 
Quote from Ricter:

On the premise "guns don't kill people, people kill people", to prevent catastrophe of the terroristic kind we need to get "inside people's heads" to find the bad characters before they act out. So we need to "snoop". The reduction of mass killings is good, the loss of privacy is bad, but so long as you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.

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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson
 
Quote from Fractals 'R Us:

...and if the spying was happening on Bush's watch you would have a function key to release a screaming, ranting message about Bush being like Hitler...
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Bush was more a "'Lil Napoleon wannabe". Odumbo is more like Hitler!
 
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If I understand you correctly, you're saying there's no such thing as a "reasonable expectation of privacy."
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He's saying that his messiah Obongo can do anything he wants no matter how unconstitutional or outrageous and he'll still support it.
 
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