NSA deletes 'honesty', 'openness', 'trust' and 'honor' from Mission Statement
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you need to open you mind to the possibility Trump is corrupt but the top of your team is also very corrupt.
I am not here to defend Trump. he is governing no differently than Jeb would have as far as I can see. I don't care if you arrest him and put Pence in. It might be better.
What I prefer is smaller, efficient, truthful govt. I desire much lower to no income taxes so our economy can boom and everyone can live better more free lives.
I am not here to defend Trump. he is governing no differently than Jeb would have as far as I can see. I don't care if you arrest him and put Pence in. It might be better.
What I prefer is smaller, efficient, truthful govt. I desire much lower to no income taxes so our economy can boom and everyone can live better more free lives.
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you are hopping around like a mad man trying to distract us. But I at this stage just about everyone knows your side is lying save a small percentage of a true believer base.
how many times do I have to tell you to open your mind.
saying trump is liar does not excuse your side's corruption and lies.
ask gruber what your side thinks of telling the truth.
saying trump is liar does not excuse your side's corruption and lies.
ask gruber what your side thinks of telling the truth.
But you keep saying my side's corruption and lies and when asked, show no examples.
What corruption did Obama indulge in? Give me something specific I can research.
As for Gruber, he was extremely honest when he said the public is stupid when it comes to taxes, you have problem with honesty now?
lets start with a few easy ones.
your answers will determine if we play this game further.
Did Obama state you can keep your doctor?
Did he lie?
Did Gruber offer us insight?
your answers will determine if we play this game further.
Did Obama state you can keep your doctor?
Did he lie?
Did Gruber offer us insight?
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Yes, Obama lied about 100 times in eight years.
Trump lies 100 times a month.
That's the difference.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/14/opinion/sunday/trump-lies-obama-who-is-worse.html
Yes, Gruber was correct in his non-PC talk, the public is stupid when it comes to taxing and spending. They want their cake and eat it too.
Gruber was correct? you say... you better check with you DNC approved comments database.
who was he calling stupid?
so when Gruber speaks of stupid voters and stupid leaders is he talking about democrat voters and chuck schumer or republican voters who knew he and Obama were lying?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapo...s-and-subsidies-from-the-public/#2a2701877c05
Today, new video surfaced in which Gruber said that “the stupidity of the American voter” made it important for him and Democrats to hide Obamacare’s true costs from the public. “That was really, really critical for the thing to pass,” said Gruber. “But I’d rather have this law than not.” In other words, the ends—imposing Obamacare upon the public—justified the means.
The new Gruber comments come from a panel discussion that he joined on October 17, 2013 at the University of Pennsylvania’s Leonard Davis Institute of Health Economics. He was joined on the panel by Penn health economist Mark Pauly. Patrick Howley of the Daily Caller was the first journalist to flag Gruber’s remarks, which were unearthed by Rich Weinstein.
In fairness to Gruber, American voters are not the only people whose intelligence he questions; elsewhere in the discussion, he describes New York Sen. Chuck Schumer (D.) as someone who "as far as I can tell, doesn't understand economics" and calls a staffer for Sen. Olympia Snowe (R., Maine)—presumably William Pewen—an "idiot."
who was he calling stupid?
so when Gruber speaks of stupid voters and stupid leaders is he talking about democrat voters and chuck schumer or republican voters who knew he and Obama were lying?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapo...s-and-subsidies-from-the-public/#2a2701877c05
Today, new video surfaced in which Gruber said that “the stupidity of the American voter” made it important for him and Democrats to hide Obamacare’s true costs from the public. “That was really, really critical for the thing to pass,” said Gruber. “But I’d rather have this law than not.” In other words, the ends—imposing Obamacare upon the public—justified the means.
The new Gruber comments come from a panel discussion that he joined on October 17, 2013 at the University of Pennsylvania’s Leonard Davis Institute of Health Economics. He was joined on the panel by Penn health economist Mark Pauly. Patrick Howley of the Daily Caller was the first journalist to flag Gruber’s remarks, which were unearthed by Rich Weinstein.
In fairness to Gruber, American voters are not the only people whose intelligence he questions; elsewhere in the discussion, he describes New York Sen. Chuck Schumer (D.) as someone who "as far as I can tell, doesn't understand economics" and calls a staffer for Sen. Olympia Snowe (R., Maine)—presumably William Pewen—an "idiot."