"Now is the time to talk about gun control" -- Kate Snow, MSNBC anchor

I own 4 guns. I'm a member of a gun club and I target shoot. I find it to be a challenge and very relaxing. Also, if any person(s) breaks into my locked home in the middle of the night and chooses to ignore the vehement protestations of my two dogs by default your intentions and state of mind are such that I will quickly perforate your body and you will have certainly bled out well before 911 appears. My hardwood floors will mop right up. Afterwards, it will bother me a great deal and it will certainly traumatize me to have taken a human life. I would certainly get the assistance of counseling to deal with it. I would imagine such an ordeal would trouble me for the rest of my life. Flight is not an option with loved ones asleep or terrified in the house so fight it will be.

Two of my firearms I had to wait several weeks on simply because I ordered them. I have absolutely no problems with the proposition of having to wait for an extended background check provided that the time period is reasonable - no more than 2 weeks by law for example. I do not think that a person on a "do not fly" list should be able to purchase a firearm - provided that there is a functional and reasonable due process procedure for that listed person to challenge his or her status and that if the person in question is a US citizen any evidence used to make that determination is made known to them and they can challenge said evidence in a Court. Go ahead and shut down gun shows completely for all I care.

A gun ban or a magazine ban IMHO is a distraction and a red herring purely for practical and realistic purposes. In fact, just talk of a gun ban has had the exact opposite consequence that gun control advocates desire. Just some thoughts:

1. American culture. Guns and cars are two of the most indelible and irrepressible parts of American culture. It seems like 75% of TV and Hollywood movies feature gunplay and violence. I find it obscenely hypocritical that every Hollywood actor, actress, producer, director, studio staffer, etc. etc. has participated in a film or show that features guns. It would be very challenging to find an exception.

2. There are at least 300 million firearms already in circulation in the US and so it stands to reason hundreds of millions of magazines with at least 10 round capacity. A buyback or confiscation program would be of very limited effectiveness. We know this to be factual because talk of gun control and bans has actually manifested the consequence of increasing US gun purchases by esoteric orders of magnitude. Since the Sandy Hook tragedy, it is said that Smith & Wesson increased production rates of its M&P line of ARs by 10 times to meet consumer demand.

3. It takes maybe 2 seconds to change magazines. You can tape two low round count mags together, flip them over, and keep firing. Low round count magazines are not much of a deterrent. It's a convenience factor more than anything.

4. AR is just a design flavor. It's a model of an item. Like a Chevy Camaro. Like an iPhone 6S. There are plenty of semi-automatic magazine fed rifles and pistols out there that are not ARs - they've been making them since the very early 1900s before WW 1.

5. AR-15 is near low man on the totem pole in terms of bullet lethality in rifles. In some states it is illegal to hunt anything larger than a varmint ( groundhogs, coyotes) with the 223/556 cartridge. Police have shot armed suspects several times with AR-15 in 223/556 and they have survived - not a rare occurrence. Try that with a 300 Win Mag or a 338 Lapua.

6. By law, schools and movie theaters and government buildings and public gathering places and businesses that serve alcohol are designated "gun-free" zones.

7. Like it or not, the world and our society is populated by human predators.
 
Nine_Ender said:
I cannot respect someone who lacks basic respect for others who are different.
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You can't make this shit up.

A guy who is obsessed with insulting Americans or anyone who differs with his idiotic politics
"cannot respect someone who lacks respect for others who are different."

He is the typical progressive SJW who demands tolerance for everyone except people who disagree with him.

In the progressive liberal's world, the only differences that count are PC defined categories, eg race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc , basically anything that can be used to divide us.
 
piezoe said:
He wasn't fighting to defend his country, he was fighting, if he was fighting, for Western hegemony in Indochina, though I doubt he realized it at the time. I don't hold that against him. Do we know if he was fighting the war with a rifle on the ground, or at a typewriter.

"All who wore uniforms are called veterans, but more than 90% of them are as uninformed about the killing zones as those on the home front." -- William Manchester, in a world war memoir.
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Really disgusting comment.

You don't have to support any war to honor those who wore the uniform.

Most guys who served in Nam were draftees. They get killed or horribly injuries and come home to be spat on by assholes like John Kerry or Bill Clinton, who dodged the draft.

Even now, our own government treats them like shit. Apparently we need to spend the money on illegal aliens and flying the obamas around the world on endless vacations instead ofproviding them basic health care.
 
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