Quote from trefoil:
Rick Perry called for Texas to secede. It's not treason to say stupid stuff like that, but it is correct to call it treasonous talk. Certainly stupid and irresponsible talk, but these days, the right gets to say all kinds of unbelievably stupid and irresponsible things, and no one takes them up on it because they've got the entire media cowed.
Please show me an example of this, while i dont deny Perry may have said this, i would love to hear the actual example so i know for sure.
Quote from trefoil:
Number two, what I posted was meant as an example, specifically, of Obama's intelligence. Also his judgment. It was actually a discerning judgment call, given that you could easily argue that the clause in the 14th being cited gave him a kind of veto over allowing the Congress to drive us into default.
If following the constitution is how you judge a presidents competence, you must have been incredibly mad when Obama got us into a war with Libya, which congress did not vote on, he also created Obamacare, and went against the constitution in both of those examples.
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Bush, OTOH, went into Iraq and removed a secular leader Osama bin Laden enthusiastically hated, and who was also a useful buffer against Iran, an avowed enemy of the US for thirty years by now.
In the name of 9/11.
And the dumbfucks who voted for him believed it.
Indeed Bush was a complete tool, no argument from me on this one, but i find it interesting that you support Obama, when his foreign policy has been identical to that clown Bush.
