Not another pattern daytrader question!

sorry guys, i have been on this board for couple of years and seen al the discussions on this daytrading rule, but as i was reading thorugh IB disclosure statement it said:

The Day Trading margin requirements are in effect from 9:30am to 3:55pm NYT each trading day, and at 3:55pm each trading day regular stock margin requirements will govern until the opening of the next trading day.

i dont need a long threda on this and administrator feel free to kill it after a few posts.
but my question is, if the PDT rule is in effect from 9:30- 3:55, does it mean that i can have a daytrade in the pre market hours and not count it towards a day trade? or can i open a position in pre mkt and then close it during the day, would the system read it as a closing position from previous day?
thnx for a brief explanation/
 
Originally posted by janko
sorry guys, i have been on this board for couple of years and seen al the discussions on this daytrading rule, but as i was reading thorugh IB disclosure statement it said:

The Day Trading margin requirements are in effect from 9:30am to 3:55pm NYT each trading day, and at 3:55pm each trading day regular stock margin requirements will govern until the opening of the next trading day.

i dont need a long threda on this and administrator feel free to kill it after a few posts.
but my question is, if the PDT rule is in effect from 9:30- 3:55, does it mean that i can have a daytrade in the pre market hours and not count it towards a day trade? or can i open a position in pre mkt and then close it during the day, would the system read it as a closing position from previous day?
thnx for a brief explanation/

No, you cannot. pre-market counts as the regular day in terms of daytrades. The 9:30-3:55pm rule refers to the 4-1 daytrading margin. You still need 25k.
 
He he Jan, you clever sod :cool:

I thought about the same thing a while ago but you already got the reply NO IT CANT BE DONE. BEsides, dnload IBs trader workstation and in the top line youll see a number 3 (daytrades9 Thats how many daytrades you have left in this 5 day period.

Cheers man
Alex
 
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