Not a dime's worth of difference

Madison · Jan 28, 2004

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

The fact remains, for all the Dem's complaints about the deficit, they want higher spending, not less.

if you replaced "Dem's" with "politicians'" we'd all be in agreement...

Bush Signs $400 Billion Expansion of Medicare
NewsMax.com Wires
Monday, Dec. 8, 2003

WASHINGTON â President Bush on Monday signed into law the most far-reaching changes in Medicare in nearly four decades, an overhaul that includes for the first time a prescription-drug benefit for seniors.

Bush said the measure, estimated to cost $400 billion over the next 10 years, would give older Americans "better choices and more control over their health care, so they can receive the modern medical care they deserve."

jem · Jan 29, 2004

I have become very concerned about bush's spending. It was expected to spend on war. It was probably wise in wake of the bubble pop. But now what the hell is he doing?

Maverick74 · Jan 29, 2004

Quote from jem:

I have become very concerned about bush's spending. It was expected to spend on war. It was probably wise in wake of the bubble pop. But now what the hell is he doing?

He's doing what every other politician does, he's spending your money. How do you feel about that? Do you want to pay less taxes or more taxes? Because there are some guys running around the country right now running for President that want to take even more of your money so they can line their pockets. What do you think? Should we give it to them?

axeman · Jan 29, 2004

The 2 step solution

1) Shoot all the attorneys
2) Tie healthcare premiums to your current state of health

Results:

1) No more law suits causing 10X what premiums should be
2) People with unhealthy lifestyles are taxed like the rich
on a graduated scale. (But they deserve to be, unlike the rich)

So for example:

Health care Premium = base $X + smoking premium + obese premium + drug premium + etc etc etc

Im very lean, healthy, and never go to the doctor. Probably
average a visit once every 5 years. Once every 10 when I was younger.
I should NOT be paying much at all for insurance.
(May be cheaper in the end if I go more often though and catch
something really bad earlier...like some kind of cancer )

An incentive based premium would be cool I think.

peace

axeman

Maverick74 · Jan 29, 2004

Quote from axeman:

The 2 step solution

1) Shoot all the attorneys
2) Tie healthcare premiums to your current state of health

Results:

1) No more law suits causing 10X what premiums should be
2) People with unhealthy lifestyles are taxed like the rich
on a graduated scale. (But they deserve to be, unlike the rich)

So for example:

Health care Premium = base $X + smoking premium + obese premium + drug premium + etc etc etc

Im very lean, healthy, and never go to the doctor. Probably
average a visit once every 5 years. Once every 10 when I was younger.
I should NOT be paying much at all for insurance.
(May be cheaper in the end if I go more often though and catch
something really bad earlier...like some kind of cancer )

An incentive based premium would be cool I think.

peace

axeman

Nice idea and I would cheer it on but the liberals of the world will never go along. You see they think that the healthy people of the world should pay for the unhealthy just as they believe the rich should be taxed enough to pay for the poor. This will never fly with the left. You'll have even more people without health insurance because most people's premiums would go up 300% to 500%. A novel idea yes, but it will never fly with the left.

swtrader · Jan 29, 2004

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
Liberal public servants like Gephardt and Lieberman, who spent their careers toiling for the lower classes even without vast personal fortunes, were quickly rejected by the blue-collar yeoman of Iowa and New Hampshire. That's gratitude for you.

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They are all bad, but gephardt and lieberman were big time h-1b supporters.

Gephardt should run for king of India, he has done more for them, imo

AAAintheBeltway · Jan 29, 2004

Quote from swtrader:

They are all bad, but gephardt and lieberman were big time h-1b supporters.

Gephardt should run for king of India, he has done more for them, imo

I wasn't aware of that. I do know that Gephardt was practically begged by the Teamsters to vote for the Alaskan oil thing but turned them down flat.

swtrader · Jan 29, 2004

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I wasn't aware of that. I do know that Gephardt was practically begged by the Teamsters to vote for the Alaskan oil thing but turned them down flat.

Part of a letter from Congressman Gephardt to the members of US-India Political Action Committee (USINPAC)

"In 2000, I negotiated an agreement to increase the number of H-1B visas issued by the United States. I also won bipartisan support for the H-1B visa increase by including worker-training funds in the legislation. This was a huge victory for Indians seeking to come to the United States to share their tremendous talents."

US-India Political Action Committee (USINPAC) website: (paragraph 6)
http://www.usinpac.com/CanMsgToIndAme_rg_PE.asp