and below is an average of the temps of the 3 major databases combined. Note the temp are all very similar... but you can check each one here...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/...ocean-temperature-anomaly-update/#more-107935
Not 97% but .3% of Climatologists agree.
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and below is an average of the temps of the 3 major databases combined. Note the temp are all very similar... but you can check each one here...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/...ocean-temperature-anomaly-update/#more-107935
and below is an average of the temps of the 3 major databases combined. Note the temp are all very similar... but you can check each one here...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/...ocean-temperature-anomaly-update/#more-107935
The lower chart is not an "average of temps", but an average of temp anomalies, right?
This is the chart that should scare us....land temps are highly variable around the mean trend line as is expected. But the oceans are where over 90% of the earth's heat is. They may have temporarily cooled off the air but eventually they will come back to add heat again.
its an average of temperatures...
i am pretty sure the anomaly part of the chart speaks to it being ploted around an average or a reference value... the 0.0 line.
i am pretty sure the anomaly part of the chart speaks to it being ploted around an average or a reference value... the 0.0 line.
1. the same old scare mongering baloney from you month after month.
Once again I must say your models predicting global warming were built on land temps.
The oceanss off gas co2 as they rise in temps.... thus the co2 goes up even though land temps have not the last 17 years.
2. What is causing the ocean temps to rise... the tiny bit they have (your scaling is designed to scare)? surely you don't think you have any science showing CO2 causes ocean warming do you?
Once again I must say your models predicting global warming were built on land temps.
The oceanss off gas co2 as they rise in temps.... thus the co2 goes up even though land temps have not the last 17 years.
2. What is causing the ocean temps to rise... the tiny bit they have (your scaling is designed to scare)? surely you don't think you have any science showing CO2 causes ocean warming do you?
This is the chart that should scare us....land temps are highly variable around the mean trend line as is expected. But the oceans are where over 90% of the earth's heat is. They may have temporarily cooled off the air but eventually they will come back to add heat again.
The increase of radiative forcing matches the increase in ocean heat quite well don't you think jem? This is where the heat is coming from. The atmosphere heated up and transferred it's heat to the oceans. This is basic common sense stuff. Climate science 101. The key stat is that the forcing from CO2 increased 80% from 1 to 1.8 watts per square meter. Interesting stuff huh?
Changes in radiative forcing of long-lived greenhouse gases between 1979-2012.
This graph shows changes in radiative forcing of long-lived greenhouse gases between 1979-2012. These gases are carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), chlorofluorocarbon-12 (CFC-12), CFC-11, and fifteen other minor, long-lived, halogenated gases. The 15 other halogenated gases are CFC-113, tetrachloromethane (CCl4), trichloromethane (CH3CCl3); hydrochlorofluorocarbons (HCFCs) 22, 141b and 142b; hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) 134a, 152a, 23, 143a, and 125; sulfur hexafluoride (SF6), and halons 1211, 1301 and 2402). The graph does not include other forcings, such as aerosols and changes in solar activity.
Summary
Total forcing in 1979 was 1.712 watts per square metre (W.m-2), and has steadily increased over time to 2.873 W.m-2 in 2012. Between 1979-2012, the largest contributors to radiative forcing have been CO2 and CH4. In 2012, the percentage contributions of each gas to total forcing was approximately:
CO2: 64%
CH4: 18%
N2O: 6%
CFC-12: 6%
CFC-11: 2%
15 minor gases: 4%
Forcing data are briefly summarized below. All the data are available in a later section as comma-separated values. The first value is the year, followed by forcing values (in W.m-2) for CO2, CH4, N2O, CFC-12, CFC-11, the 15-minor halogenated gases, and total forcing, respectively:
1979: 1.027, 0.419, 0.104, 0.092, 0.039, 0.031, 1.712
1980: 1.058, 0.426, 0.104, 0.097, 0.042, 0.034, 1.761
1990: 1.293, 0.472, 0.129, 0.154, 0.065, 0.065, 2.178
2000: 1.513, 0.494, 0.151, 0.173, 0.066, 0.083, 2.481
2010: 1.791, 0.504, 0.174, 0.170, 0.060, 0.106, 2.805
2012: 1.846, 0.507, 0.181, 0.168, 0.059, 0.111, 2.873
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C...-lived_greenhouse_gases_between_1979-2012.png
Changes in radiative forcing of long-lived greenhouse gases between 1979-2012.
This graph shows changes in radiative forcing of long-lived greenhouse gases between 1979-2012. These gases are carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), chlorofluorocarbon-12 (CFC-12), CFC-11, and fifteen other minor, long-lived, halogenated gases. The 15 other halogenated gases are CFC-113, tetrachloromethane (CCl4), trichloromethane (CH3CCl3); hydrochlorofluorocarbons (HCFCs) 22, 141b and 142b; hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) 134a, 152a, 23, 143a, and 125; sulfur hexafluoride (SF6), and halons 1211, 1301 and 2402). The graph does not include other forcings, such as aerosols and changes in solar activity.
Summary
Total forcing in 1979 was 1.712 watts per square metre (W.m-2), and has steadily increased over time to 2.873 W.m-2 in 2012. Between 1979-2012, the largest contributors to radiative forcing have been CO2 and CH4. In 2012, the percentage contributions of each gas to total forcing was approximately:
CO2: 64%
CH4: 18%
N2O: 6%
CFC-12: 6%
CFC-11: 2%
15 minor gases: 4%
Forcing data are briefly summarized below. All the data are available in a later section as comma-separated values. The first value is the year, followed by forcing values (in W.m-2) for CO2, CH4, N2O, CFC-12, CFC-11, the 15-minor halogenated gases, and total forcing, respectively:
1979: 1.027, 0.419, 0.104, 0.092, 0.039, 0.031, 1.712
1980: 1.058, 0.426, 0.104, 0.097, 0.042, 0.034, 1.761
1990: 1.293, 0.472, 0.129, 0.154, 0.065, 0.065, 2.178
2000: 1.513, 0.494, 0.151, 0.173, 0.066, 0.083, 2.481
2010: 1.791, 0.504, 0.174, 0.170, 0.060, 0.106, 2.805
2012: 1.846, 0.507, 0.181, 0.168, 0.059, 0.111, 2.873
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C...-lived_greenhouse_gases_between_1979-2012.png
Behold the coming apocalypse as predicted on and around Earth Day, 1970:
1. "Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." - Harvard biologist George Wald
2. "We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." - Washington University biologist Barry Commoner
3. "Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction." - New York Times editorial
4. "Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." - Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich
5. "Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born... [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." - Paul Ehrlich
6. "It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," - Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day
7. "Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions.... By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." - North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter
8. "In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution... by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." - Lifemagazine
9. "At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." - Ecologist Kenneth Watt
10. "Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." - Paul Ehrlich
11. "By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate... that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, 'Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, 'I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" - Ecologist Kenneth Watt
12. "[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." - Newsweek magazine
13. "The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." - Kenneth Watt
1. "Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." - Harvard biologist George Wald
2. "We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." - Washington University biologist Barry Commoner
3. "Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction." - New York Times editorial
4. "Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." - Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich
5. "Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born... [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." - Paul Ehrlich
6. "It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," - Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day
7. "Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions.... By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." - North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter
8. "In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution... by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." - Lifemagazine
9. "At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." - Ecologist Kenneth Watt
10. "Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." - Paul Ehrlich
11. "By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate... that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, 'Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, 'I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" - Ecologist Kenneth Watt
12. "[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." - Newsweek magazine
13. "The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." - Kenneth Watt
It's one thing to not care about climate change, but to deny it shows how dumb you are.
Not that it matters, because you dumbasses have no influence on anything.
Not that it matters, because you dumbasses have no influence on anything.
Hear that FC, you're not the first "Peter cried wolf...". 13 others beat you by 44 years...