And so is the whole GW hoax.
Not 97% but .3% of Climatologists agree.
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And so is the whole GW hoax.
Are you also denying that European Vitis vinifera grapes grew in England during this time (800AD to 1200AD) and the Roman times? Amusing.
Have you ever seen wild Muscadine grapes - they are smaller berry-like grapes growing on vines. They are not blue berries (or any other type of berry) growing on a shrub.
Are you actually so foolish to believe that berries are the same thing as grapes? Or are you just think the Vikings were too ignorant to tell the difference between the two? You are coming across like a nanocephalic dwarf.
Please continue to embarrass yourself. Vin -> vinber = wine -> wine berry. Leif never stated they were grapes, you tool. If you understood the root relates to "wine" and not grapes... they fermented BERRIES in Scandi and did so in Newfoundland.
lol. Yeah bro, and the fuckers be growing oranges too!
Amusing how you are completely off base and can not tell the difference between grapes that grow on vines and berries that grow on shrubs.
Let's try an example with clear documentation. There are plenty of documents from English monasteries in the Medieval Warm Period detailing how they grew grapes and created wine. Obviously it had to be a lot warmer than today to grow these particular variants of grapes in England. How do you explain this?
Are you going to claim that they were actually brewing with berries also - but were too dumb to know the difference.
Let's take a brief look at the history of wine in the U.K.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_from_the_United_Kingdom
Some quotes:
Traditionally seen as struggling with an unhelpfully cold climate, the English and Welsh wine industry has been helped by the warmer British summers over recent years and it is speculated that global warming may encourage major growth in the future.[1]
The United Kingdom is a major consumer, but only a very minor producer of wine, with English and Welsh wine sales combined accounting for just 1% of the domestic market.
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The Romans introduced wine making to England, and even tried to grow grapes as far north as Lincolnshire. Winemaking continued at least down to the time of the Normans with over 40 vineyards in England mentioned in the Domesday Book, although much of what was being produced was for making communion wine for the Eucharist.
"The earliest etymology of "Vinland" is found in Adam of Bremen's 11th century Latin Descriptio insularum Aquilonis ("Description of the Northern Islands"): "Moreover, he has also reported one island discovered by many in that ocean, which is called Winland, for the reason that grapevines grow there by themselves, producing the best wine." (Praeterea unam adhuc insulam recitavit a multis in eo repertam occeano, quae dicitur Winland, eo quod ibi vites sponte nascantur, vinum optimum ferentes). The implication is that the first element is Old Norse vÃn (Latin vinum), "wine"."
Vinland - Wikipedia
Was Greenland named "Greenland" because Vikings found it to be an frozen arctic wasteland.
Why did they settle down and grow barley and other grains there?
Must have been pretty warm during the 800AD to 1200AD period to be growing crops in Greenland.
Vikings grew barley in Greenland
lol you're making an argument other than Erik the Red naming it as such to attract settlers to rape and pillage?
omfg you are retarded.
Amusing - you claim the Vikings had zero experience in making wine from grapes. The facts: the Vikings attacked and took over many vineyards in England and France during this period. They easily picked up the art of wine-making and used it throughout their civilization (even while their traditional brew up in Norway, etc. was made from berries).
Trying to claim that the Vikings had no clue about wine-making is absurd. - They have found ancient wine-skins in Iceland with remnants of grape-based wine inside (not the berry stuff).
So explain how the Vikings grew barley and other crops in Greenland if it was not significantly much warmer than it is today?
omg you fool:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Greenland
Agriculture and forestry[edit]
Agriculture is presently of little importance in the economy but climate change â in southern Greenland, the growing season averages about three weeks longer than a decade ago[24] â has enabled expanded production of existing crops. At present, local production accounts for 10% of potatoes consumption in Greenland, but that is projected to grow to 15% by 2020. Similarly, it has enabled new crops like apples, strawberries,[25] broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, and carrots[24] to be grown and for the cultivated areas of the country to be extended[26] although even now only about 1% of Greenland is considered arable.[27] Expanded production is subsidized by the government through purchase guarantees by the state-owned Neqi A/S grocery store chain.
So in other words - you can spew insults, but you have no logical explanation of how the Vikings grew barley in Greenland during this period
The only reasonable explanation is that it was much warmer than it is today during the Medieval Warm Period. Which - of course - is a fact supported by scientific data (such as tree rings), writings from various civilizations, and the record of warm weather crops grown in locations that no longer support them.
The National Academy of Sciences has joined in on the act and rewrote the history of temperatures in order to promote the global warming hoax.
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com...own-past-at-the-national-academy-of-sciences/
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com...own-past-at-the-national-academy-of-sciences/