Not 97% but .3% of Climatologists agree.

[jem]

more data showing Ocean SST (sea surface temperature) leads co2 levels.

'You can also see a one year lag between AMO and the carbon flux. This is because the AMO lags the tropical Pacific by about a year. - See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2013/10/08/...-co2-and-not-vice-versa/#sthash.qTvX6kJy.dpuf"

http://notrickszone.com/2013/10/08/...emperature-is-driving-co2-and-not-vice-versa/

 

[kid.fx.cross]

I don't know what the big deal is

Scientists have been telling me since 1970 we are at peak oil

So we can burn all we want until we run out

poof! Global Warming solved

 

[wjk]

Quote from kid.fx.cross:

I don't know what the big deal is

Scientists have been telling me since 1970 we are at peak oil

So we can burn all we want until we run out

poof! Global Warming solved

Some, including some in NASA, are comparing the current sunspot activity to that of the Maunder Minimum, which correlates with the mini ice age during the 16th century (I think 16th but I don't feel like googling it right now). If we are entering such a period, we will soon know if man made warming is a factor or not regarding overall warming or cooling (we were causing cooling back in the 60's and 70's according to the propaganda films we were forced to watch in school back then).

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from jem:

http://notrickszone.com/2013/10/08/...emperature-is-driving-co2-and-not-vice-versa/

As can be seen in Figure 1, there is no relationship between the fossil carbon emissions curve and the annual carbon increase curve. That is because all the fossil emissions carbon is taken up by the biosphere or by the oceans according to Henry’s Law, and then sequestered there. The carbon in the atmosphere is controlled by temperature. This has been described by Dr. Murry Salby in this presentations at Sydney and Hamburg. He compares the CO2 curve to the integral of temperature. Here, I am going the other way mathematically, taking the differential of the CO2 curve as temperature and comparing it to known temperature data, the HADSST3 data. - See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2013/10/08/...-co2-and-not-vice-versa/#sthash.MpRRDnYE.dpuf

You have no idea what you are talking about and are a fucking liar and and a fraud.

Where is this chart from? It's crap. So of course you think it is some great thing.

Just to look at one thing on it - Annual carbon increase - what carbon increase? In the air? Increase year over year of emissions? What?

It's an irrelevant chart. The simple fact is that CO2 is rising and therefore temps are rising therefore the ocean temps are rising.

To say that CO2 levels are rising because the ocean temps are rising has it exactly backwards.

You are seriously confused about some very simple things. I suggest that you work on the basics before getting into more esoteric stuff because your intellect is seriously warped and lacking.



You are so full of shit.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from jem:

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/FlaticecoreCO2.pdf

Fc don't you get tired of just lying your ass off and being wrong every time you argue with me.

There is a reason for it. I have science to back up my statements or I tell you its my opinion. When you make factual statements you should try and google it to make sure.

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/FlaticecoreCO2.pdf

It appears from this graph that CO2 concentrations follows temperature with a lag of
approximately 6-9 months. The interesting part is off course that the CO2 trends so
markedly responds to temperature changes. I wanted to get a clearer picture of this
relationship, and thus took approximately 20 datasets from this graph:

You are a fucking liar and a fraud. This chart is irrelevant bullshit. You pretend to be figuring something out but it's all bullshit. CO2 change year over year means nothing and to compare it to temp change is just plain obfuscation and diversion.

Where do you get this shit? Are you working for the Koch bros?


This is the only chart that matters. Look at it you fucking evil lying bastard. It's current. It shows how the rising CO2 levels reversed a cooling trend into a warming trend.

Print this out and stick it up your evil ass. Douchebag.

If people start putting ideology before facts and science, we're all fucked. And that's exactly what you are doing. Prick. Kill yourself now and do the planet a favor.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from jem:

more data showing Ocean SST (sea surface temperature) leads co2 levels.

'You can also see a one year lag between AMO and the carbon flux. This is because the AMO lags the tropical Pacific by about a year. - See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2013/10/08/...-co2-and-not-vice-versa/#sthash.qTvX6kJy.dpuf"

http://notrickszone.com/2013/10/08/...emperature-is-driving-co2-and-not-vice-versa/

More obfuscation and irrelevant bullshit from a fucking liar. The chart that actually tells us something is the one I posted above.

What do you think? You can just post any impressive looking chart and say it supports your "argument".

You work for the Koch bros don't you?

Koch Industries, a conglomerate that has played a major role in pushing Republicans away from action on climate change, is ramping up an already-aggressive campaign against climate policy — specifically against any tax or price on carbon. Owned by the billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch, the company includes oil refiners and the paper-goods company Georgia-Pacific.

Koch Industries maintains ties to the Tea Party group Americans for Prosperity, which last year campaigned against Republicans who acknowledged the science of climate change. The company also contributes money to the American Energy Alliance, a Washington-based advocacy group that campaigns against lawmakers that it claims support a carbon price. This year, the American Energy Alliance says it has spent about $1.2 million in ads and campaign activities attacking candidates who it says support a carbon price.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from kid.fx.cross:

I don't know what the big deal is

Scientists have been telling me since 1970 we are at peak oil

So we can burn all we want until we run out

poof! Global Warming solved

If we burn all the fossil fuel that is in the ground we insure catastrophic climate change.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from wjk:

Some, including some in NASA, are comparing the current sunspot activity to that of the Maunder Minimum, which correlates with the mini ice age during the 16th century (I think 16th but I don't feel like googling it right now). If we are entering such a period, we will soon know if man made warming is a factor or not regarding overall warming or cooling (we were causing cooling back in the 60's and 70's according to the propaganda films we were forced to watch in school back then).

The sunspot activity means nothing.

We already know that man's emissions of the greenhouse gas CO2 which has raised it's levels by 40% and CO2 is responsible for 10 -25% of the earth's greenhouse effect so tempratures have also risen.

There was no "propaganda films that you forced to watch and most scientist in the seventies predicted warming.

You are very deluded and ignorant about AGW.

But the Koch bros love sheep like you.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from futurecurrents:

If we burn all the fossil fuel that is in the ground we insure catastrophic climate change.

You have no idea what you are talking about and are a fucking liar and and a fraud.

 

[wjk]

Quote from futurecurrents:

The sunspot activity means nothing.

We already know that man's emissions of the greenhouse gas CO2 which has raised it's levels by 40% and CO2 is responsible for 10 -25% of the earth's greenhouse effect so tempratures have also risen.

There was no "propaganda films that you forced to watch and most scientist in the seventies predicted warming.

You are very deluded and ignorant about AGW.

But the Koch bros love sheep like you.

I already proved my credentials against you in a debate about this long ago (my Navy years collecting upper air data), yet you still insult. I've tried being reasonable with you, but you really are hopeless, clinging to theories that are now in question based on recent and far more accurate evidence produced by modern and improving techniques.

Sunspots means nothing? That's like saying the sun doesn't drive weather patterns. Glad you know more than NASA scientists regarding this one. And cooling was predicted by panicked people like you back in the 60's and early 70's. Thanks for proving what so many others have said about you here. You are a true drone; a useful idiot of the highest order. Gore could not become a billionaire without fools like you. Your mind is completely closed to any evidence that challenges your indoctrination. If you are so fucking worried, move away from the coast and head north.

I find it ironic that you attack me, because I've never disputed the warming. More evidence of your absolute blindness to anything outside your limited viewpoint of a very complex issue.