Do you want to know how I can say that beyond a shadow of doubt that the earth has not stopped warming?
Not 97% but .3% of Climatologists agree.
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No you look for bullshit that bolsters your mistaken opinion and then distort and misunderstand what you read.
Oh I guess I misunderstand that every science org in the world agrees and that there is virtually unanimous consensus on the fact of AGW throughout the entire world's science community.
You bore me.
Go fly a plane, or something else that doesn't require the higher brain functions.
Hey einstein if CO2 did not cool this would not happen.
until you start producing some science which takes this into account... I will just keep posting this.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-new...12/22mar_saber/
SABER monitors infrared emissions from Earthâs upper atmosphere, in particular from carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), two substances that play a key role in the energy balance of air hundreds of km above our planetâs surface.
âCarbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural thermostats,â explains James Russell of Hampton University, SABERâs principal investigator. âWhen the upper atmosphere (or âthermosphereâ) heats up, these molecules try as hard as they can to shed that heat back into space.â
Thatâs what happened on March 8th when a coronal mass ejection (CME) propelled in our direction by an X5-class solar flare hit Earthâs magnetic field. (On the âRichter Scale of Solar Flares,â X-class flares are the most powerful kind.) Energetic particles rained down on the upper atmosphere, depositing their energy where they hit. The action produced spectacular auroras around the poles and significant1 upper atmospheric heating all around the globe.
âThe thermosphere lit up like a Christmas tree,â says Russell. âIt began to glow intensely at infrared wavelengths as the thermostat effect kicked in.â
For the three day period, March 8th through 10th, the thermosphere absorbed 26 billion kWh of energy. Infrared radiation from CO2 and NO, the two most efficient coolants in the thermosphere, re-radiated 95% of that total back into space.
until you start producing some science which takes this into account... I will just keep posting this.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-new...12/22mar_saber/
SABER monitors infrared emissions from Earthâs upper atmosphere, in particular from carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), two substances that play a key role in the energy balance of air hundreds of km above our planetâs surface.
âCarbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural thermostats,â explains James Russell of Hampton University, SABERâs principal investigator. âWhen the upper atmosphere (or âthermosphereâ) heats up, these molecules try as hard as they can to shed that heat back into space.â
Thatâs what happened on March 8th when a coronal mass ejection (CME) propelled in our direction by an X5-class solar flare hit Earthâs magnetic field. (On the âRichter Scale of Solar Flares,â X-class flares are the most powerful kind.) Energetic particles rained down on the upper atmosphere, depositing their energy where they hit. The action produced spectacular auroras around the poles and significant1 upper atmospheric heating all around the globe.
âThe thermosphere lit up like a Christmas tree,â says Russell. âIt began to glow intensely at infrared wavelengths as the thermostat effect kicked in.â
For the three day period, March 8th through 10th, the thermosphere absorbed 26 billion kWh of energy. Infrared radiation from CO2 and NO, the two most efficient coolants in the thermosphere, re-radiated 95% of that total back into space.
So you are saying every science org in the world does NOT agree that man has cause warming of the earth from his greenhouse gas emissions? And that there is no science org that disagrees?
I'm trying to get you to actually say something.
Apparently you agree with me that the earth has not stopped warming so at at least we have that out of the way.
And the price of tea in China.......
If you are trying to tell me something I already know about how CO2 absorbs and then re-radiates long wave radiation, then thank you but I already understand how CO2 works in the atmosphere pretty well. And climatologists really really know how it works, and they say that CO2 on balance warms the planet.
But it does not work like a thermostat. It works like the setpoint on a thermostat.
The higher the level of CO2 the higher the setpoint. The author of the above article says just that.
the author of the article back a few pages... makes that conjecture based on her idea that co2 combines with clouds to cause more warming.
But,
a. it is conjecture to say that more co2 causes more clouds and
b... I just showed you that NASA says they are not sure if more clouds cause warming or cooling.
c. finally I could see that water vapor could be like thermostat too. just like co2. causing warming in the early party of the warming cycle but then causing cooling in the later part.
in other words, at first cloud cover causes warming by keeping warmth in at night... but as the clouds get thicker instead of causing more warming they start blocking out more and more sun.
these are complicated dynamic systems you need to think in systems.