Quote from fhl:
UN Climate Report Goes Bust: Even Media Fails to Promote: Top Scientists (including IPCC reviewers) Condemn IPCC Report as âPremeditated Murder of Scienceâ â âabsurdâ â âpoliticalâ â âwrongâ â âdogmaticâ â âpropagandaâ â âgrossest misrepresentation of dataâ*
*climatedepot.com
Quote from futurecurrents:
Didn't you understand the first time that we showed that CO2 is warming the earth? The troposphere (lower atmosphere) is warming while the stratosphere is cooling, showing empirically that CO2 acts like a blanket preventing heat from escaping.
Yes, understanding systems is not for the simple minded or the intentionally blind as you are. Do you think all the world's climate scientists have not thought about this stuff? Because over 97% of them know CO2 is causing global warming.
Your grasping at straws, intentional ignorance and pulling quotes out of context to prove a point is sad.
Quote from futurecurrents:
ClimateDepot.com is the website of Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow employee Marc Morano, a conservative global warming denier who previously served as environmental communications director for a vocal political denier of climate change, Republican Sen. James Inhofe. Launched in spring 2009, Climate Depot claimed it would be "the Senate EPW website on steroids," and "the most comprehensive information center on climate news and the related issues of environment and energy."[1]
ClimateDepot.com is being financed by the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, a nonprofit in Washington that advocates for free-market solutions to environmental issues. Public tax filings for 2003-7 (the last five years for which documents are available) show that the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the ExxonMobil Foundation and foundations associated with the billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife, a longtime financier of conservative causes, including being the primary source of money used to fund attacks against Bill Clinton during the Whitewater and Monica Lewinsky eras of his presidency [1]. According to a report issued by the Union of Concerned Scientists, from 1998-2005, approximately 23% of the total ExxonMobil funding for the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow was directed by ExxonMobil for climate change activities [p. 32].
On December 4, 2012, Morano debated Bill Nye the Science Guy on the topic of global warming on CNN's Piers Morgan Tonight.[9] At the end of 2012, Media Matters for America named Morano the "Climate Change Misinformer of the Year."[10]
In other words. It's not a site for the real science.
Quote from futurecurrents:
And he got the term "thermostat" wrong. That would assume that CO2 increased it's rejection of heat as the thermosphere heated up and then reduced it's rejection of incoming solar as the temps go down. It doesn't act that way. There is no feedback system at play. He simply used the wrong term. It's more like just a blanket. Unless there is more to it than is explained in the article. Besides the thermosphere is way above the stratosphere and is not the troposphere layer of atmosphere. It is the lowest layer - the troposphere - that is involved with the greenhouse effect that we are concerned about.
But all this is silly. To think that as laymen we can out-think the professional scientists in an area of their expertise is ridiculous.
97% of the world's climatologists agree that man's greenhouse gasses (mostly CO2) are causing the spike in warming we are seeing over the last 40 - 50 years.