Northeast may see long gas lines for a week and...

Quote from LEAPup:

That's sad that you can't have a gas tank. I store gas in 5 gal containers x 10 of them for my generators. Once a month I refuel the cars with the gas, then refuel the containers. Best thing if you decide to store them is keep them in a cool dry place, and vent them weekly. I can't have a gas tank either which pisses me off! Wish I still lived in the country when it comes to stuff like this. Storing 10 five gallon gasoline cans makes me nervous when a gas tank kept out of sight would be MUCH safer vs what I have now.:(
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Quite frankly that's probably illegal if you check your mortgage documents.


btw if you have a fire your insurance company will not pay.

I considered digging a pit in the back yard and do what you are doing but those containers are expensive now like 16$ a piece and new ones pour fucking crappy.

I just concluded it's more hassle than it's worth.
 
A friend of mine in NJ has a generator that runs on natural gas. His family and friends gave him a lot grief about it when he put it in a few years ago, calling it a huge waste of money... They're all over at his house right now. Of course, he expected a sincere apology from each one before he let them through the door.
 
Quote from tomdavis:

A friend of mine in NJ has a generator that runs on natural gas. His family and friends gave him a lot grief about it when he put it in a few years ago, calling it a huge waste of money... They're all over at his house right now. Of course, he expected a sincere apology from each one before he let them through the door.
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NG generator is one of the best investments a homeowner can make. Wouldn't be without one.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

We learn in Econ 101 that price is the most efficient allocator of scare resources. . . Let the market sort it out and see who's right.

Of course, that will never fly with the same people who think rent control is a rational way to deal with a housing shortage and minimum wage laws do not affect employment.
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About 5 years ago, we had a serious gas shortage here in Charlotte. And naturally, the populist anti-gouging was in full play. The interesting thing about that was, if we had allowed 4 dollar a gallon gas, people would have been trucking more of it in. WTF would anyone take a tanker truck of gas to Virginia when they can get 4 times as much for it in Charlotte? High prices increase supply and decrease demand. As it was, people would be driving by a place, see that it had gas, and get in line to top off their tank.

And nobody learned from the experience. Just amazing. The antigouging laws are still on the books.

Imagine two people are in line for the last generator in town. One guy runs a steak distribution company and needs to keep his million dollars of inventory cold. One guy wants cold beer and a big screen TV to watch the football game. Under free markets, the last generator would sell for quite a bit, and probably out of reach of the NFL fan. End result, the steaks are saved. Under anti-gouging, if the NFL fan is first in line, it's beer and football and spoiled steaks.
 
Quote from TGregg:

About 5 years ago, we had a serious gas shortage here in Charlotte. And naturally, the populist anti-gouging was in full play. The interesting thing about that was, if we had allowed 4 dollar a gallon gas, people would have been trucking more of it in. WTF would anyone take a tanker truck of gas to Virginia when they can get 4 times as much for it in Charlotte? High prices increase supply and decrease demand. As it was, people would be driving by a place, see that it had gas, and get in line to top off their tank.

And nobody learned from the experience. Just amazing. The antigouging laws are still on the books.

Imagine two people are in line for the last generator in town. One guy runs a steak distribution company and needs to keep his million dollars of inventory cold. One guy wants cold beer and a big screen TV to watch the football game. Under free markets, the last generator would sell for quite a bit, and probably out of reach of the NFL fan. End result, the steaks are saved. Under anti-gouging, if the NFL fan is first in line, it's beer and football and spoiled steaks.
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That's a very good point. High prices stimulate supply.
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

1) As far as i know usually that type system is used to supply all of the electricity for the home under normal conditions and is very expensive compared to a portable generator.

2) Might make sense if my cars also ran on nat gas.

There's no substitute for your own gas tank. for generator and cars.

hell i know one guy that has one of those old ones that works by pumping it up into a cylinder and drains by gravity , no electricity needed at all.
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Yes, they are quite a bit more expensive than the ones you get at Home Depot. Typically, they are plumbed to the house's nat gas and start automatically if the power cuts.
 
Post-storm anger grows, especially outside Manhattan

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Frustration grew for superstorm Sandy's victims in the U.S. Northeast on Friday, many of whom were left with no power, no gasoline and little information about when their shattered lives might return to normal.

While Manhattan prepared to host the annual New York City Marathon on Sunday, acute gasoline shortages in the city's storm-battered outer boroughs and New Jersey led to long lines and short tempers.

Continued at: http://news.yahoo.com/fuel-scarce-east-coast-struggles-recover-storm-000645293.html
 
Quote from tomdavis:

A friend of mine in NJ has a generator that runs on natural gas. His family and friends gave him a lot grief about it when he put it in a few years ago, calling it a huge waste of money... They're all over at his house right now. Of course, he expected a sincere apology from each one before he let them through the door.
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They are not cost effective when you calculate how many days use you get out of them.

now if you are especially dependent upon electricity like a family member is on a ventilator or your mary jane crop in the attic might freeze it may be worth it to you, otherwise it ain't worth it for the avg homeowner.
 
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